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[+] Help! My K dd does not eat her lunch (too early, too rushed, too picky). She will n... 19 replies
- have you aksed her what kind of foods she woudl eat at lunch?...
- or so, give her the veggies that she'll having for dinner. And stop catering to her, give her what the rest of the family eats. Unless she has allergies or is special needs, your child needs to be able to eat out of the house. You've got a big problem and you don't know it....
Talk : : November 18, 2009
Help! My K dd does not eat her lunch (too early, too rushed, too picky). She will not eat cheese, nut butter, meat, yogurt, or really much of anything. She does eat breakfast (cereal, oatmeal, waffles), but not much else. What can be done about this? I bring her a snack after school, which lately has consisted of nutrition bars for kids, but need ideas of snack-type foods that might appeal to her during school so she's less famished at pick up. Any ideas??? Thanks in advance!
19 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]11.18.09, 02:49 PM [ Flag ]-
Yes. Every time I ask and pack what she says she wants, it comes back uneaten. It's aggravating!
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 04:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Then she's talking or something else is going on but you are just helping her act this way if you bring her snacks. It'll be very difficult for both of you for a few days but you'll have to remind her that she wouldn't be so cranky if she ate her lunch. Then, around 5 or so, give her the veggies that she'll having for dinner. And stop catering to her, give her what the rest of the family eats. Unless she has allergies or is special needs, your child needs to be able to eat out of the house. You've got a big problem and you don't know it.
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 04:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Lots of K kids do not eat lunch -- it's too early (<11am), too short (15 mins max to eat out of the 30 allotted) etc. Yes, I'm sure she's talking, but she ate breakfast less than 3 hours prior and is simply not hungry for a meal at that time. They do an afternoon snack (crackers, fruit), but I think if she had a substantive snack at "lunch", it would help her through the day without being so crazy hungry. Forgive my ignorance, but why is this a "big problem"?
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 04:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np LOL. You, OP, seem to think it's a problem. I think your kid is picky because she's catered too, and if you keep giving her protein bars, that will soon be ALL she'll eat.
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 04:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]iTTTTA
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 05:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Are you speaking from personal experience? Some of these replies don't sound like it to me, either that or you are not the ones picking up your hungry child after school...
[ Reply | Options ]11.19.09, 04:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
give her cereal with milk if she'll eat that.
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 02:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Is she in a school lunch program? I would stop bringing her after school snacks (I know, I know) and in a couple of days she'll start eating something because she knows she has to eat or be hungry until dinner.
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 02:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]She it way too hungry to wait until dinner. I have made dinner time earlier to try and make this work, but she is absolutely famished by 3pm and needs to eat something.
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 04:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
What about just packing the nutrition bars in her lunch? Or toast 2 waffles in the am and put them in her lunch. The Kashi go lean ones have a fair amount of protein and fiber.
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 02:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I've tried this, but she still claims to be super hungry at pick up. How many bars can a kid safely eat in a day?
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 04:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
how about bananas, raisins, plain pasta, chicken nuggets (the organic variety from applegate farms), strawberry jam "sandwich"
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 03:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thanks. I'm going to try the plain pasta. Maybe even tortellini.
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 04:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
My dd loved edamame and leftover yakitori or chicken sate skewers and cucumber sushi (or plain rice balls with nori).
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 04:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^Sorry - didn't see the not eating meat part.
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 04:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I have a picky eater too. DC will eat strawberry cream cheese on a mini bagel, cereal bar, and some fresh fruit (melon, banana, grapes).
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 05:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]my dc drinks a juice box every day, eats some pretzels and that's about it. I usually put 2 small cookies in there too. I just sugar him up at lunch to get him thru til 3 pm
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 06:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Just TRY putting new things in. You say "she won't eat..." but you'd be surprised what she might try. I agree with other posters - tell her eat lunch, no snacks. She'll figure out you mean it if you stick to it. Liverwurst % Triscuits? Soup in a Thermos? WW Waffles and cheese sticks? Any kind of pasta in a Thermos? Bologna Sandwich? Mini carrots and dip?
[ Reply | Options ]11.18.09, 07:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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[+] Do you think having a child with a non-cognitive disability is a plus for TT admissio... 28 replies
- in that case, no--i bet it neither helps nor hurts. probably of the same amount of interest to the schools as whether dc has a serious food allergy and needs extra attention at meals....
Talk : : November 13, 2009
Do you think having a child with a non-cognitive disability is a plus for TT admissions?
28 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]11.13.09, 07:24 PM [ Flag ]depends on the school. very few that I've seen are handicapped accessible, if that's what you mean.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: you are correct, but I am talking about a minor disability, one that requires almost no special treatment, but is, none-the-less a documented disability.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]in that case, no--i bet it neither helps nor hurts. probably of the same amount of interest to the schools as whether dc has a serious food allergy and needs extra attention at meals.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Such as?
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]one arm. lame foot. cochlear implants. blind in one eye. only one of these is true.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I would say 1, 2, 4, yes. No to 3. But ladies, do not start performing surgery. I am no expert in admissions.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]oK, so no surgery for DC this weekend. got it!
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]must be cochlear implants. wouldn't call one arm or blind in one eye a minor disability none-the-less documentented
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I feel like the "one arm" is obviously fake, the eye and cochlear things would possibly come into play in explaining poor performance on one or two sections of the ERB, but other than that, I don't think you're better or worse off than anyone else. Sorry! Now if dc were a 13yo parapalegic with top grades who competed in marathons and wrote an essay about it, that would be a sure shot into a tt high school (and Harvard), but that's a different story, isn't it?
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: ok, I guess we will suffer through general ed and then make sure dc gets it all together for HS apps while sporting a high tech wheel chair.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I was saying your dc's chances are no better or worse than anyone else's.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]No, I was just being silly. I don't think DC's disability will benefit the application, it does offer something different, only some schools would likely think of it as a diversity value plus.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Lol, but seriously, it is funny that there is as yet little emphasis on physical diversity on any of these tt schools.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]because they all involve a shitload of stair climbing, as I can attest to after doing the round of parent tours! the only place i saw with an elevator that accessed the whole building was Ethical Culture (which you naysayers will surely remind me is not "tt" anyway)
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I am the OP and I think Ethical Culture is the best school I've seen.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ditto. Loved that school (and not just because of the elevator).
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]What do you think the chances are there? I hear 9 spots per gender. It is so not gonna happen for us. Maybe we will try again in HS.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]are you serious? it's not happening for us either in that case.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Dalton has elevator, but the slowest one in the world.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]You are not an All Souls parent, are you?
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]No, Dalton. I can admit that we do have the slowest elevator in the world. The class would be over before the poor kid joined the rest of the kids.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I swear, All Souls has theeeeee worst elevator on the face of the earth. It is so slow.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
How about the non-cognitive disabilty of having a jackass parent?
[ Reply | Options ]11.14.09, 07:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Negative probably
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 07:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you may ask during the interview if they have any child with the same problem. If they say no, you can ask if they discriminate against that so it may works.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]asking them "if they discriminate against that" is not exactly trying hard to make friends, is it? -np
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you can say it somehow,
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
You could say, Would it be an issue? How would the school deal with it if another kid said something, how would disabilities be discussed in class..etc
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 08:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] WE just found out my daughter is allergic to nuts. any good resources in the city? 13 replies
- There is a big allergy foundation for children in NYC. Google Children's Allergy Initiative. Tons of support....
- "Food Allergy Initiative" is the organization...
- when i was little - just stay away from foods with nuts - by the way, i did grow out of my allergy...
- Jaffe Food Allergy clinic at Mt. Sinai is the top in...
Talk : : November 12, 2009
WE just found out my daughter is allergic to nuts. any good resources in the city?
13 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]11.12.09, 08:37 AM [ Flag ]move out of new york. there are tons of nuts here.
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 08:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Nonsense. There are nuts everywhere. Lots of people deal with this effectively in NYC.
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 08:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]lol
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 08:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Well, she'll have to stay away from this board (and you!) for sure
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 08:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]oh boy, you must say "Nonsense" a lot, Mrs. Literal.
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 08:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]please tell me you got the joke.
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 08:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]lol. best chuckle I've had all day. Sad, I know.
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 09:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
There is a big allergy foundation for children in NYC. Google Children's Allergy Initiative. Tons of support.
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 08:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]"Food Allergy Initiative" is the organization
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 08:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i was allergic to nuts when i was little - just stay away from foods with nuts - by the way, i did grow out of my allergy
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 09:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Do you have a pediatric allergist yet? The Mt. Sinai program is the best - long wait list, but really a great group of doctors, with the latest info.
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 09:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Jaffe Food Allergy clinic at Mt. Sinai is the top in the nation. Kids with Food Allergies is a website that has good recipes (you have to pay a fee for access to the recipes) -- you can specify the ingredient your kid is allergic too. A bakery called BabyCakes in the East Village is nut-free -- though their flour is made on equipment that also processes almonds, if I recall correctly. Hope this helps.
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 09:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]same poster: they also use coconut oil. would discuss w/your allergist (some say stay away).
[ Reply | Options ]11.12.09, 09:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Help -- Have you been told you have a "highly sensitive child?" I have been briefly ... 46 replies
- ? I wonder if you should have her tested for allergies, wheat/dairy? Behind the knees is a classic spot to...soothing for her. i wouldn't be surprised if some food allergies surface, perhaps wheat or dairy, but be real...sounds over-tired and over-stimulated (though maybe does have an allergy issue). Read "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child" It...
- OP: allergy testing came back negative, except very mild (upper normal)...
Talk : : November 09, 2009
Help -- Have you been told you have a "highly sensitive child?" I have been briefly reading online and think my 3 year old may qualify. However, she is not a shy child, she loves being around people and wants to play with/visit others every day, very social. She can be quiet sensitive, but also can have horrible tantrums. She does not like loud noises and sometimes complains of the seams in her socks being uncomfortable. If she gets upset, she itches, complains of being hot. She asks a lot of questions and seems pretty bright. Our main concern is she is so outgoing she never wants to rest, take a nap, or go to bed at night. She wants to go, go, go most of the time, but if interested she does have a good attention span so i don't think she's adhd. Anyone else dealt with this and have any advice? She really wears us (mostly me, SAHM, also have 1 yr old) out most days. anyone btdt? any good books on this topic? should i consult a psychologist?
46 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]11.09.09, 05:08 AM [ Flag ]My ds was like this. Of all of it... the one you should focus on is the sleep issue. Kids are very much still in formation neurologically at her age. If she's not getting enough sleep all the rest of her sensitivities will be heightened. Work to get her to sleep as much as possible at night (hopefully 10-12 hours) and to take a rest period during the day. If you need professional input to help in this area, that's where you should spend it.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 05:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes, the sleep, rest issue -- that's what worries me the most. she gets tired in the afternoon but really does become "hyper" b/c she does not want to sleep -- jumps, talks incessantly (even unintelligle babble on and on), anything to keep from resting. has a tantrum if you try to get her to rest or take a nap (loud screaming, angry, crying, hot and itchy). i can tell she's tired but she gets mad if you even say she is tired. it's really hard to deal with this, esp. with the 1 year old b/c i can't concentrate only on her
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 05:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]how old is your ds now? how did you deal with sleep issue? did he get better as he got older?
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 05:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Talk to your ped and to a sleep professional if necessary. As I said, my ds was like your dd, but I was a real hardass about bedtime and naps and it not only helped him (although it was a struggle at times) but it helped me a lot, especially when I had db #2 when he was 2.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 05:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^ I had started when he was a baby to establish bed and naptimes. It's harder when they're older, but just as essential, which is why I suggest consulting a pro.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 05:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes, she did pretty good with bedtime until db#2 was born (when she was 24 months). things went downhill, and it's a real struggle now
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 05:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I understand, but it's a struggle that's worth it for her own well-being. Can DH help you at bedtime? Also, she's old enough that if you start talking to her about the new bedtime rules in the morning, and remind her throughout the day, she has a chance to think about it and you have ground to stand on at bedtime. It won't be an instant fix of course, but unity between you and DH and consistency will win the day. I'd expect 2 weeks of struggle...
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
sounds like a nightmare!
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 08:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
She sounds perfectly fine to me.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 05:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes, but this morning she got upset b/c she woke at 6 am and said she was ready to get up. i told her it was not time to get up yet, she got upset and starting itching/scratching, immediately scratched behind her knee and it bled. she seems to have sensitive skin, but if she gets upset she has started really itching and scratching hard. it can be over anything
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Does she have eczema? I wonder if you should have her tested for allergies, wheat/dairy? Behind the knees is a classic spot to get eczema? Could you start the day with a soothing bath?
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]we just had some allergy testing and are going for results this week. she has a rash around her mouth constantly, but it doesn't itches. i thought it was from pacifier at night, but she gave that up 2 months ago
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]She sounds like classic wheat allergy, do post update when you get results, I will watch your post. Hang on in there, and I agree, you have to nail down the bedtime ritual, so she gets more at night, since she will not rest during day.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I have three adult female friends who break out in hives and scratch when nervous. I don't think there is a "cure"
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]once my child wakes up - there is no "going back to sleep". They aren't like adults.. when they wake up, they wake up.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Will she sit quietly for a 'nap-time' for an hour, and the deal is, if she is quiet, and sits or lies down, and has a snack, she can watch a video. It might help her unwind for the rest of the day.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]i've tried that -- and she will sit there but then starts jumping -- on the couch, bed, wherever. i think she's tired but she does it to keep herself running, and things get steadily worse, all the while she gets mad and harder to deal with. when she was younger, she would finally conk out, but no longer. people/relatives who have been around her all say they have never seen a child with more energy, i'm not exaggerating
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Maybe if you turn it off when she does that. Go over the rules with her beforehand. But I agree, no good if she is not engaged by video. Will she sit if you are reading to her? I believe you on the energy thing, my sister was same way. If she is in her bedroom on her own, will she calm down and watch something, or is she jumping around for attention?
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]she will not calm down in her room, gets more and more upset. wants me to lie down with her, usually can't do that or read due to 1 year old (unless she is napping). she loves to jump, jump, jump. maybe for attention, but i think it's mostly she loves the excitement and doesn't want to wind down, EVER
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Many 3yos have horrible tantrums. You wrote a lot here, but your kid sounds fine. I agree about firm limits re bed time. The only thing I picked up from the post could be that she is physically senstive to clothes, just let her wear stuff that is comfortable.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^PS - ADHD is not something that can be dx until a child is about 7.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]my ds was diagnosed in K at the age of 5. sorry, but you're wrong. and, btw, we know something was wrong as early at 3.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Well no REAL professional will do so. Signed a mom who does know and has been at this game unfortunately a L O N G time.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
read post above about getting up about 6am. she wasn't scratching from uncomfortable clothes --- she gets upset and it starts, scares me she scratches so hard
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]She has to learn some coping techniques, like stroking an itch, not scratching. She sounds ery clever. If you can explain how to deal with it at a quiet time. Have her practice on a teddy, tell teddy how he is doing ti all wrong etc.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
have you ever had your daughter professionally evaluated. I think you should. I'm no doctor but she sounds very much like my son who has adhd.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]no, we have not. how old is your son? was this his behavior at age 3? she can watch a tv show in the morning and sit still, but in the afternoon she will not. she goes to morning preschool and they have had no problems with paying attention, sitting in seat. is this how your son was? did he have attention span at some times but not others? who should we go to for evaluation?
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]my son's behavior was very similiar. if he was interested in something, he could be very, very focused, which is what threw me off. he was very bright - and still is. very verbal. could follow directions, but yet had very little impulse control. you should have him evaluated by a child psychiatrist. we tried all the bahavioral stuff first. we told him first to a behavioral therapist, who pretty much diagnosed him as adhd from the get go, but we worked with him for about 6 m. waste of money and time.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]oh yes, she can be so focused, her ped. was amazed when she knew all her colors at 25 months --even described as light or dark. how old was he when you had him evaluated? what has helped (in a nutshell)? i think we need to do this but my dh may balk when i mention a psychiatrist. but then again, when she continuously gets on the floor and rolls around and will not sit at the dinner table, even he said one night we might need medical help
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]we had him evaluated when he was 5, but there were problems in preschool as well. they were concerned, and we should have had him professionally evaluated then. however, my dh was in denial, couldn't accept that his son had a problem. what has helped? medication. we didn't take it lightly, believe me. dh balked too, but eventually ds started to have anxiety attacks because he was so nervous about going to school and "getting in trouble because he couldn't control his body". it took a while but we finally found something that worked. it was a long hard road and still is, somewhat, now that ds is a teen and we having other issues.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]This may not be ADHD, but it is worth an eval. At 3, the best professional is a developmental pediatrician who looks at all areas of development including social, "academic", emotional, gross and fine motor. Some of what you describe can be attributed to "sensory" issues, which people on this board tend to not understand and consider hogwash. But if you have ever seen a kid with sensory issues you get it.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]son with adhd and he also has sensory issues.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 06:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
your dd sounds like she's fine but that she does have sensory issues. try to make sure that she eats food that do not have artificial additives, or dyes in them. ask your dr. about a soothing cream for her skin when it starts to itch - that should feel calming to her. it's good that you're doing allergy testing as something could be irritating her that she's allergic too. have her use a comfy, non irritating blanket that is soothing for her. i wouldn't be surprised if some food allergies surface, perhaps wheat or dairy, but be real careful also about eliminating dyes and additives in food. hope you get some answers soon.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 07:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]oh, also make sure the detergent you use is dye free, perfume free.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 07:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
This is my DS in a nutshell. He is 4 years old and now being evaluated by Dept of Ed for occupational therapy services and a Seeit (which is like a shadow adult) for pre-K. I think down the line it may be ADD. I know what you mean about wearing you out. Makes me feel guilty but the house was so nice and quiet yesterday with only his sister home. they call it "sensory issues" and kids with "sensory issues" are bothered by certain feelings - ex. clothes, texture of food, - he went nuts today because we gave him a Sudafed meltaway strip and not the liquid. Lots of tantrums. Very very hard.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 08:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Frankly, you DC just sounds over-tired and over-stimulated (though maybe does have an allergy issue). Read "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child" It might help it easing her towards a quiet time, if not a nap. At age 3, she might have stopped but you never know. You might try Aveeno products for the itching - that oatmeal works wonders.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 08:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
OP here: thanks so much for the replies. i have called the ped to schedule an appt. and get referral for assessment i definitely feel/know there are sensory issues, wondering if we are dealing with the beginning of add, adhd, or just a stage she will grow out of. will find out results of allergy testing later this week and will post results. again, thanks so much everyone, i appreciate all responses
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 08:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Wow, I can't believe nobody brought up the younger sibling. Sibling rivalry manifests it self in many ways. Your little one is at an age where he/she is really cute... gets a lot of attention. Maybe she's just acting out. I have a childhood developmental psych in the family. We talk about this kind of stuff all the time. She says 9x out of 10 (when people bring in there 3 year old to be evaluated) there is a new baby or young sibling at home taking away a lot of mommy's attention.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 10:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]My mother always reminds me how difficult I was when I was 4. Tantrums at preschool, my socks were to tight, food had to be prepared in a very specific way or complete and total meltdown. I ended up doing very well in school, no add, adhd, sensory intergration disorder. My younger brother was about 1 years old at this time. The only boy in the family... got tons of attention.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 10:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OR here: I ended up in the gifted program like other or's dd.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 11:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^ but my grammar/spelling sucks ;)
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 11:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
My dd was so sensitive about the noise that she freaked out (almost jumped out of the changing table) every time she heard the squeaky sound of the plastic velcro tape of the diapers (I think it was pampers) that we had to change to Huggies. She still has problem with the toilet flushing sound etc. She can only wear clothe made with cottons and can't stand the clothing tags that we have to cut off any tags from all th clothe we buy. Since infancy, she slept much less than other children, but didn't seem to be tired. She also enjoyed adult company talking and asking many interesting questions. Only difference is that my dd didn't have any tantrums. She was very sensitive, but reasonable child. My dd is very advanced cognitively and most of the above traits are found in highly gifted children. I think you should look into this possibility as well.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 11:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^the traits mentioned above are found in highly gifted children. I think you should look into this possibility as well.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 11:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
You will not know until she is five. Just make sure she gets out each day to run some energy out. Focus on book, music, etc after she has run around a bit. She may also be over stimulated but yes she is "sensitive". But probably not extreme.
[ Reply | Options ]11.09.09, 07:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: allergy testing came back negative, except very mild (upper normal) for milk and eggs. have started using Aveeno baby wash and lotion and that has helped with itching. also made her take a nap 2 days this week and it has helped with some behavior issues. all the advice here has really helped! and to the person who mentioned my 1 yr old, YES, i think we are still dealing with a lot of sibling issues even though its been a year. thanks everyone so much.
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 06:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]My 5yo dd is highly sensitive and I feel your pain! There's an online "quiz" with questions about sensitivities and my dd's score was 20 out of 23 (13+ qualifies as "highly sensitive"). Check out the resources on http://www.hsperson.com/index.html -- GOOD LUCK!
[ Reply | Options ]11.13.09, 10:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] 2ndgrader is persistently tired. Impossible to get out of bed in the AM. Teachers r... 25 replies
- have you thought about food allergies? I'm not really one to go there first, but I believe food allergies can cause fatigue....
Talk : : November 04, 2009
2ndgrader is persistently tired. Impossible to get out of bed in the AM. Teachers regualarly note this in conferences. Gets 10-11 hrs sleep per night. Have checked out adenoids, tonsils, iron levels and even had overnight sleep study. Nothing shows an issue. Has ALWAYS needed lots of sleep since birth. What else would you check out. I feel so bad for her. Otheresie gen health,w eight and height all normal.
25 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]11.04.09, 09:40 AM [ Flag ]I would try to get her one additional hour or sleep. I would also make sure diet had a lot of protein in it.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 09:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]thyroid maybe?
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 09:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Sounds like dc needs to go to bed at 7pm. While hard on you, I'd evaluate activities, pick out the one or two dc likes best, drop other things and make sure dc is home by 4:30, doing homework by 5, dinner by 5:30, bathing at 6, reading at 6:30 and then bed. See if things get better after that.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 09:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]i would check for leukemia
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 09:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]god forbid!
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 11:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP Here - Thanks for that. The thought has crossed my mind over the years. I have two friends w/kids with leukemia. But she has NONE of the other leukemia symptoms. Guess I should at least discuss with pediatrician.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 11:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
make sure she is on a multi-vitamin and a healty diet. Does she have a crazy schedule? There are so many parents out there who think their child needs to be in an activity all the time. Children need downtime.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 09:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]What time does she go to bed?
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]8:15
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Too late. Try 7:30pm and see if it improves. We had to move bedtime earlier when dc started K for this reason.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^ and I'm not an early to bed kind of person, but I think if dc are struggling to get up in the AM, earlier bedtime is the only option.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]We've tried. DD does not fall asleep. Willing to try again
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^she is actually very good at telling us when she is tired and needs to go to bed.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]or: if she's hard to wake up in the morning though, she's not getting enough sleep. i understand that going to bed early is hard (i have this problem as an adult) but everything I've read on the subject says that a well rested person will wake up on their own or easily. I would keep at it, every night. If she doesn't fall asleep, maybe she can read in bed with a small light until 8pm. I think in many households, esp where both parents WOH, the 1-2 hours before bedtime is not a quiet time and kids have trouble unwinding to go to sleep. That's my experience FWIW.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
if they checked for anemia, they ran a CBC that included both hemoglobin and wbc (and that would show any signs of leukemia). Kids can have thryoid issues - especially if it runs in your family. But some kids just need more sleep than others.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thyroid, diabetes maybe. What does your dr think?
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Have not called dr on this issue in more than 6 mos. But putting in another call today. Starting to get really worried. Just had another parent/teacher conf this week and subject came up again.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]It's probably nothing, but there are a bunch of things that are easy for your ped to check.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
is school stressful? I am asking because I have seen how kids in 1st to 3rd can be extra tired, even get sick more often when stressed in school. Some schools believe (wrongly IMO) that "rigor" should begin in 1st grade.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thanks, if anything she is bored in school, yet I believe genuinely tired. Virtually no homework, so I don't think it is the rigor.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 10:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Try cranio sacral therapy.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 05:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i would be thinking thyroid, make sure breakfast has protein in it, multi-vitamin in the a.m., add 45 - 60 minutes to her sleep at night. Take her to ped for checkup re. fatigue. good luck; it's probably something that can be adjusted easily.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 05:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Where did you come from, oh speaker of clear and sensible advice? I'd like to get some tips from you! (I'm serious, not being snarky.) -NP
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 05:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
soemtimes it takes a long time for kids to adjust to a new schedule. the clock change isn't helping either. i'd mover her bedtime up by at least an hour. she can look at books in bed for a long time, but she should be in bed by 7pm. and change her eating habits. that will help more than you think.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 05:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]have you thought about food allergies? I'm not really one to go there first, but I believe food allergies can cause fatigue.
[ Reply | Options ]11.04.09, 06:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Does your child's school have a rule that all treats must be store-bought? How do yo... 16 replies
- school doesn't have a rule like that, but we have one teacher who will only allow popsicles as treats. We have no food allergies in our family, but I would be devastated if I did, so I...
- We had one class that had this rule, probably because of allergies but possibly also that parents couldn't be blamed for dc's becoming sick, "food poisoning" etc. by other parents. I understood the reasoning, but still didn't like...
Talk : : October 29, 2009
Does your child's school have a rule that all treats must be store-bought? How do you feel about that?
16 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.29.09, 08:03 PM [ Flag ]No. I think it is a very bad rule.
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 08:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]no, why do they have that rule?
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 08:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Why is it a bad rule?
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 08:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Our school doesn't have a rule like that, but we have one teacher who will only allow popsicles as treats. We have no food allergies in our family, but I would be devastated if I did, so I tend to let those parents make any rules they want.
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 08:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you are a very nice person :)
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 08:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ugh, I HATE when they give them popsicles. They should be responsible for getting the stains out of the clothing too.
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 08:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hijack: like the stains from the "washable" markers and paints?
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 08:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Nursery school teacher: use Zout, it saves all of my clothes!! :)
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 08:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
We had one class that had this rule, probably because of allergies but possibly also that parents couldn't be blamed for dc's becoming sick, "food poisoning" etc. by other parents. I understood the reasoning, but still didn't like having the rule.
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 08:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]No, it does not have this rule. There are peanut-allergic kids in the class, as well as egg-allergic. So, with both baked goods and store-bought, the teacher looks at all the ingredients and runs it by the parents of the allergic kids.
[ Reply | Options ]10.30.09, 06:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Same. There is a nut-allergic DC in DDs class and home-made is OK, as long as we are careful.
[ Reply | Options ]10.30.09, 07:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
For big school-wide events yes. I don't care. Makes life easier for me because then I don't have to bake. I get stressed out over sending in snack as it is.
[ Reply | Options ]10.30.09, 07:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]store bought and wrapped in individual servings pre bought--so now big bag of cookies with them portioned off in to baggies
[ Reply | Options ]10.30.09, 07:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Is your school trying to indoctrinate your DCs into becoming consumers? Why not ask the parents to provide a recipe?
[ Reply | Options ]10.30.09, 08:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]If a DC is seriously allergic, there can be cross-contamination problems(canola oil stored in a container that used to hold peanut oil).
[ Reply | Options ]10.30.09, 08:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]If dc is seriously allergic, you will send your own treat to much on during celebrations. That's the only way to be in control.
[ Reply | Options ]10.30.09, 09:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Building on a post from last night, would you allow your kids to have something with ... 23 replies
- try to stay away from such things as much as possible. What specific food item are you having an issue with?...
- would not make a big deal over one cupcake unless an allergy situation. Are you a food neurotic in other areas? I am guessing yes. The spec of artificial sweetener in one cupcake,...Ugh. Why would a mom serve cupcakes with artificial sweetener to kids! Diet foods cause obesity....
Talk : : October 27, 2009
Building on a post from last night, would you allow your kids to have something with artificial sweeteners in it?
23 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.27.09, 07:38 AM [ Flag ]I would try to stay away from such things as much as possible. What specific food item are you having an issue with?
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 07:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Depends on age. 2yo - no, 8yo - fine occasionally.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 07:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]tasti-delight, 7yo, every once in a while.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 07:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Tasti-D-Lite has no artificial sweeteners. I could taste those a mile away.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 07:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]are you sure? I thought they did.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 07:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Just checked the web site and they claim no.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Some mom made birthday cupcakes with the stuff. I wouldn't let my kid have it. I bought her a real cupcake, later.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I would not make a big deal over one cupcake unless an allergy situation. Are you a food neurotic in other areas? I am guessing yes. The spec of artificial sweetener in one cupcake, once, is not going to affect your child's health. Yeesh. Learn some manners.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ugh. Why would a mom serve cupcakes with artificial sweetener to kids! Diet foods cause obesity.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]no they don't My mom used them her entire life and so does my sister. THey are not obese, actually my mom is thin. She just won't eat sugar.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]no they dont you fool.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]one or 2 studies that say maybe they affect metabolism -calories in calories out - eat too much you get fat
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Only fat people drink diet coke, myself included.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
They don't cause obesity...just cancer.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I prefer not to and I wouldn't do it intentionally. Nor would I flip if they did have some. I don't eat it myself and I think most of them taste horrible anyway.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]not on a regular basis but if it was in something and at a party or at a dinner - sure why not
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I never give them anything with artificial sweeteners, so if we are somewhere that it is served I let them partake (party or something, not at a restaurant).
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]no
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]In general, no. One off situations on the odd occasion, sure.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]same. I don't keep/use artificial sweeteners at home, but I'm not going to have fits if my Mom uses them in the stuff she feeds DD when she's visiting either.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ditto. When I was a kid once in a while my dad would order an iced tea (with caffeine, gasp) and sweeten it with artificial stuff (since the regular sugar never disolved). He let me share it with him and I was always so happy. Prob. twice a summer. No biggie.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
my 1 yo ds loves diet coke. so shoot me.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I wouldn't do it, even on an occassional basis, so I wouldn't let my kids, either.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 09:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Sandwiches for party -- help on ideas? It will be 4 & 5 yr olds (plus parents). Ham &... 39 replies
- a sandwich with butter on it, YUCK. I would not do PB&J due to common allergy issue. Given your menu, I don't think you need sandwhiches....
- Honestly thread is too long so sorry if I'm being repetitive but food for most parties I've been to & given: pizza, fruit plate, crudite...favorite is turkey with cranberry sauce. If you know none of her friends have nut allergies, I think there is nothing wrong with pb&j. And since it's a party,...
Talk : : October 26, 2009
Sandwiches for party -- help on ideas? It will be 4 & 5 yr olds (plus parents). Ham & cheese? Jelly? Cucumber? Turkey w/thin slice of apple? With regards to traditional "tea" sandwiches, do you do butter on the bread (ie cucumber with a thin spread of butter) or do you do something else? The easier the better, as we're making them ahead of time and bringing them to the party location.
39 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.26.09, 07:10 AM [ Flag ]cucumber - salt a little, put on buttered bread.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]You so English, ma'am.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]no, caribbean, but know a good tea sandwich when i get one. (shades of post colonialism)
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
radish/butter, cream cheese/jelly, smoked salmon/butter or cc, apple/cheese, fig/cheese
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]no 4/5 yo's I know would eat smoked salmon, radishes with butter, etc. keep it to cheese and/or turkey and cheese, or pb&J if no allergies. Anything else is trying way too hard for that age group.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 05:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
maybe it's just me but I don't think 4 and 5yos would like any of these sandwiches. why do they have to be English? If it's a party for 4/5yos, please serve something 4/5yos like, like turkey, salami, pb&j sandwiches.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]As an adult I find them unappealing. OP, you don't need to plan special menu for the adults at the party. If you want to feed them offer pizza, or something plain and simple.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP here -- you find sandwiches unappealing or the ones I suggested? For adults I was just going to serve crudite, fruit, cheese & crackers and a pasta salad. Just thought I'd make some sandwiches for the kids. (Trying to avoid pizza -- dd has dairy allergy. No problem having cheese around but don't want pizza to be "the meal" since it's her day.)
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I find finger sandwiches unappealing, I can't imagine eating a sandwich with butter on it, YUCK. I would not do PB&J due to common allergy issue. Given your menu, I don't think you need sandwhiches.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 08:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]LOL--how could anyone possibly object to butter? And certainly not kids. Most kids I know would LICK the butter off. I've definitely found that kids like cucumber and butter too--mild, a little crunch. I'd go for that. And even smoked salmon--most kids love it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 09:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
OP here -- listen, I'm stumped, so any advice is great. Turkey with what? Salami and what? Mayo? Mustard? PB&J I can figure out :) PS Weirdly most kids I know like cucumber sandwiches. No to ham & cheese?
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I agree that pizza is best, but if you must do sandwiches: do ham&cheese, salami, tuna, and turkey. I don't think you need condiments.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OK, thank you. I am more concerned about the kids and yeah, agree w/you -- wish we could do pizza but doesn't seem very festive or in the b-day spirit to leave birthday girl out. Thanks for the ideas.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 08:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]pizza schmeeza, enough with the pizza, i think sandwiches is a great idea; my kids love those little sandwiches, offer a variety -- maybe cucumber, ham and cheese or turkey, jelly. i a so sick of pizza at bday parties -- can kids eat nothing else?
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 08:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]thanks, appreciate the advice.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 08:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I tta. My kids often have tea parties. Be sure to cut of the crusts. You could even use cookie cutters for the sandwiches if you want to get really fancy.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 05:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: My dd loves her tea parties, too. (She is more into pouring the tea than anything else, but still.) I think those Frances books sold her on the idea.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np: Not British, not Caribbean-- use Kirby or some such cuke! The seeds in your typical 3/$1 cuke are so wet it will make your bread all soggy if made ahead of time.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Good point!
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 08:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]true, but cutting them thick and salting them before hand draws out a lot of the water.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 08:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]So lay them on cloth towels and use a bit of salt? Glad you told me to do this.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 09:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
If you really want to make your life easy, call Fairway. They make lovely tea sandwhiches for both children and adults
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 09:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Crap -- I'm out of NYC, otherwise I'd do it. That sounds ideal. Thank you, though!
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 09:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]not trying to be snarky, but why woudl you post on nyc then?
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 09:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]'burbs but no check-box for that. And to be honest, the NYC moms are the best at cooking ideas and cool entertaining suggestions. I moved recently -- still feel like I belong in NYC. And not snarky at all.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 09:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Honestly thread is too long so sorry if I'm being repetitive but food for most parties I've been to & given: pizza, fruit plate, crudite plate, pretzels, cake. If you really want sandwiches get turkey wraps & veggies wraps & cut into pinwheels on a plate. done.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 09:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^ most parents too busy wrangling or socializing to "eat" anyway. But wine is always a welcome addition to the soft drinks.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 10:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Lovely, thanks. Excellent ideas. Agreed -- I don't go to parties with my kid to eat, but it's nice when they offer me a snack and a drink. Wine -- > I'm already on it!
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 10:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]You're welcome. They're perfect nibbling finger foods. Have a great party!
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 10:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Check with whatever fancy grocery store your town has. I'm sure someone will sell you tea sandwiches. And, btw, "order in" has to be the ultimate in NYC cooking advice.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 10:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hee. So true.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 10:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
how about raisin bread with cream cheese. my dds love this!
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 10:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]serve pizza and call it a day
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 10:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]my kids like roll-up sandwiches. Their current favorite is turkey with cranberry sauce. If you know none of her friends have nut allergies, I think there is nothing wrong with pb&j. And since it's a party, why not pb and fluff? or nutella and fluff? Not what I would serve for lunch on a normal day, but it's a party. Also, we have done chicken fingers for many kids parties.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 11:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I actually like the chicken fingers idea but not sure about keeping them warm (party not at home). Hm. It is a possibility, thank you! Maybe I can wrap the pan. Then what with the chicken, like do you do mini-bagels? Potato chips and pretzels?
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 11:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
We just had a party and did PB&J and Cheese sandwiches for the kids. Parents ate some of that and a tray of sandwiches from the Italian deli. All the PB&J were gone. About 1/2 the cheese were eaten. And all the adult sandwiches.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 01:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Not to sound like a total idiot, but did you just do cheese and bread? Or did you put mayo on it or something else? Cut off crusts for kids, right?
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 04:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
egg salad. Or tuna. Spreadable and easy.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm going to vote no to these. I saw someone serve egg salad at a kid party and it was a bust. (No one cared, of course, b/c it was all about the cake, but still, one kid spit it out and no one wanted them. I think less smelly/goopy stuff is safer for the majority, whether that's cheese, or ham & cheese, or pb&j, etc.)
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 04:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] How much wine do you drink each night? After having second DB, I drink every night, a... 97 replies
- as bfing has been on the rise so have allergies...
- P.S. Are you drinking with a meal/some food? That always helps reduce the drunkenness factor!...
- , which is 100% false. Nice try with the allergy half thought. Formula feeding has higher correlation with allergies than does breastfeeding. But again, nice try....
- like you. I don't really count with food or drinks. I don't drink so much...
Talk : : October 25, 2009
How much wine do you drink each night? After having second DB, I drink every night, about 2-3 glasses. Sometimes this worries me, sometimes I figure f*ck I deserve it. I survived another day.
97 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.25.09, 06:28 PM [ Flag ]I was you a year ago. I am now in AA. A friend who is also in AA suggested it too me. If you're worried about it, you probably should stop. It's been amazingly freeing to me. Life is still hard, but I feel more in control. Most importantly, I am more present with my ds.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]sorry, "to me"
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm sorry to hear that you are in AA though am glad that you are taking care of yourself. I will speak to my therapist about it. Truth is, sometimes I worry; sometimes I think it's okay.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]AA has actually been a joy for me! Why don't you go to an open meeting and just listen. There are truly amazing people in the program.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]So honest and so true. I agree with the woman in AA, same is true for me. 2-3 glasses every night - which typically means a bottle. I see a post below, a person asking about being inebriated. Being an alcoholic does not necessarily = inebriated. There are all types. If you're asking on UB than it's a problem. Definitely make note, talk to your therapist and check out an open meeting. Lot of mom's married and single in AA.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np- are you in NYC? I need someone to guide me- hated 2 meetings
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I am in NYC and happy to help direct you. Neighborhood and time you need mtg? Good for YOU! Don't give up it's really the best thing that ever happened to me.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]GREAT, I'm in AA too, was going to add my 2 cents, lots of moms, lots of nice normal people...
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ps you can find AA meetings by just typing AA into google, there are many on the upper east and upper west side....
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 06:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]And if you need suggestions - when you're ready let us know and we'll help guide you to the right mtgs.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Are you SAHM?
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Sadly, I am on maternity leave but am not breastfeeding.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Just see if you can stop for a week. If you can't, you have a problem. Try going to an AA meeting. Life shouldn't be about "survival." That said from someone who used to think it was.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np Is that really a good test? I've known people who would admit to drinking problems who could dry out for a month to regenerate their liver. One week doesn't really prove much if she is craving the alcohol the whole time and goes right back to the same habits. I'm not saying she needs AA and 100% abstinence for the rest of her life, I know people who have learned to control their drinking other ways, but not sure a week off proves much either.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 04:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Is your drinking part of the reason you aren't breastfeeding??
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Maybe I am the only one that thinks you may be drinking out of stress? if you haven't done this in teh past maybe this is a coping mechanism for being stressed with a 2nd child or possibly even PPD? I just wouldn't jump to the conclusion that AA is needed-
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
are you inebriated every day? some people can handle their liquor and drink as much as you everyday without "losing control" and without becoming an alcoholic
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I wouldn't say that I'm drunk. It does help ease me off into sleep if anything, but I'm certainly not stumbling around my apartment or drunk dialing old friends. (Thank god!)
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I really try not to judge people on coping methods but this seems a bit worrisome. I have 2 dc and would have a low-grade fog that would impair my already pregnancy battered brain if I drank that much. Agree w/above try stopping. And try asking want to? or have to?
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
same. DH and I love to drink
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Same here. I drink a glass or two every day- even a bottle between my dh and me. I would hardly say that it calls for a AA meeting. It's called "winding down at the end of the day". Neither one of us are close to drunk. We are happy to be enjoying our wine.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]denial
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]BS - if one's drinking isn't taking anything away from one's job, personal relationships, etc. I don't see where there's a problem.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 12:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you're nuts. Anyway if that's denial so be it. Call me a lush. Who cares?
[ Reply | Options ]10.28.09, 04:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes, and all college students are in denial about their drinking problems. They should all go to AA meetings. They will never go through that drinking phase without attending those AA meetings. They will end up losers in life.
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 05:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
1 a night seems ok. 2 per night occasionally seems ok, 3 per night seems really excessive to me.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think this is fine. Maybe because sometimes I do it!
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^ I mean, the key question is: does your drinking interfere w/your work, your relationships with family, etc.? If so, then even one glass could be an AA problem. But if it doesn't, then so what. It's not as much a numbers game as it is the impact
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]exactly. I didn't drink more than 2-3 a night, but it was on my mind all day.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I have to gently respond that it sounds like more than you should be having. Try to reassess and if you can't live without it for one or two weeks you should talk to someone. Good luck to you.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thank you to all of you for thoughtful and genuinely caring replies. Honestly, I'm a little afraid to stop. I had horrible insomnia after first DB, and the wine helps with getting me to relax and sleep. I'll see what I can do.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]it actually interferes with your sleep!
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]This was going to be my point. Alcohol will help you fall asleep, but not stay asleep.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Could you consider breastfeeding if you stopped drinking?
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]lol - why would you ask this?
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 04:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I am wondering if part of the reason she isn't breastfeeding is because she's drinking so much. Why is that laugh out loud worthy? she's choosing booze over the best nutrition for her child.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]lots of people choose not to bf and it has nothing to do with drinking. People just don't want to and it really is no big deal
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]"choose not to breastfeed" - you act like it's a lifestyle choice! Give me a break. It very much is a big deal. you sound very immature saying "it really is no big deal" when every single health agency advocates for nursing and has demonstrated the health benefits of nursing, which are far superior to formula.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]keep it up uber boober - it really doesn'[t matter
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]what doesn't matter? Breastfeeding? I am going to side with the mountains of clinical evidence, published in peer reviewed medical journals, which suggest otherwise. It's sad you have to denigrate others to rationalize your own ignorance (what the heck does uber boober even mean?).
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]listen lady - nobody has to bf if they don't want to -they don't even have to give a reason. It's their right. We were all formula fed and all are fine. It's fine. Odd how as bfing has been on the rise so have allergies
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 09:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]"Nobody has to if they don't want to" - that's your argument? Of course it's someone's right to feed their baby however they choose. I am stating fact, that breast feeding is superior to formula, which contradicts your assertion that type of feeding for a newborn doesn't matter, which is 100% false. Nice try with the allergy half thought. Formula feeding has higher correlation with allergies than does breastfeeding. But again, nice try.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 12:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np -- While I am all for breastfeeding, you are really over the top militant, aren't you?
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 02:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes she is- to even bring it up on this thread in inane but I suppose she was looking for a place to spew her stuff. I bf for 4 mo and I still don't think it's a big deal and nobody or any study will make me change my mind. I certainly would never look down on formula feeders like this woman.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 02:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]how is stating fact militant?
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 03:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
alcohol can casue insomnia.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]If the main reason why you drink wine is to feel relaxed and sleepy, maybe try 'Simply Sleep' (made by Tylenol) instead. I've also had bouts of insomnia since having children and that helps.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 09:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
sober mom here and while 2-3 glasses doesn't have to mean a problem, the bottom line is that if you are thinking about having those drinks all day, if you can't imagine a day without them, and if you can't actually not drink for a week or two without feeling anxious and panicky about it, big warning sign that it's time to stop. Two to three glasses can become 2-3 bottles over time.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Wondering if these are not the types of response you expected to get back?
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I only have one DC and drink 1-2 glasses of wine every night. I feel similarly to you that I worry sometimes about it, but mostly just let it happen. I don't feel the urge to drink during the day, just around dinner time when being SAHM with toddler starts to feel tough. Not sure what others would think, though.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]2-3 glasses per night is not a problem. If you're worried, cut back. I have been sober for almost 12 years. If you are really an alcoholic, you would not be able to stop after 2-3 glasses. Every drop in the house would be gone, or you would pass out, before you were done.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]That's not true. There are varying degrees of alcoholism. One does not have to be a falling down drunk who has rung the house of every last drop to be someone who is dependent on alcohol.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:49 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I agree. There are a lot of high-functioning alcoholics out there who justify regular heavy drinking because it doesn't interfere with their families, jobs or friendships...yet. The problem is that it can be a progressive disease and those 2-3 glasses in your 30's could be 5-10 per night in your 50's. I've been alarmed at how much more I started drinking after getting married and having two small children. My husband downs 4-5 drinks per night, which really worries me. I'm thinking about staying dry after this third pregnancy is over. I just don't need it and don't want my husband's drinking habits to turn me into a heavy drinker. I worry about the example it sets for the kids - that drinking a lot every night is OK.
[ Reply | Options ]10.28.09, 05:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I do this too and sometimes worry about it, sometimes I don't. I like wine, but do feel like I could give it up. Never think about it during the day. My new idea is to cut back to 1-2 glasses, which seems to be the medical recommendation.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I have one dc and am a WOHM, preg w/#2. While not pregnant I may have had 1-2 glasses of alcohol a *month* mid-week. On w/e it would be max 2 glasses on a Friday OR a Saturday, but not both. No judgements here, you asked, so my answer is that there are plenty of people who do not drink everyday. IMO 2-3 glass/night esp when caring for children is a bad idea and something you want to address before it progresses further.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]so you are judging. Read your own words. Just so you know if you drink 2-3 each night you won't feel it like you would since you don't drink. You build up a tolerance. Some people are tipsy on that and some just mellow
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 04:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Drinking alcohol while minding small children is not a good idea. Tell yourself what ever you want to about the problem being @ others judgements. Or you could grow up and own your own behavior.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Own my behavior. I never asked for your opinion. I'm not OP - I'm just commenting on your judgments when you said you weren't judging
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]However you gladly point the finger at someone who says 2-3, lets face it, 3 drinks every night is excessive. So you're not the OP, but you would what? Say her behavior is positive? Say it's good for the children? Say it's a good long term plan for the problems she's escaping from? Then you will enable the behavior. But you won't ever have to take any responsibility b/c you're not judging.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I would have to disagree with you- and agree with the poster above you. Drinking 2-3 each night for some people (including most Europeans) does not have much effect. Especially drinking at night while db is in bed is not a problem at all.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]We can agree to disagree then. OP clearly stated she's using alcohol to reward herself for surviving another day. That will lead her down the wrong path. Plus she's clearly worried that she's drinking too much, another sign that she probably is.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think a LOT of people drink at night to reward themselves at the end of the day. OP is not the only one. Half the drinking population should be going to AA meetings.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I now limit myself to sharing a bottle at dinner with DH, so probably 2-3 glasses per night. with this level of drinking, I fell good, and in control. before, i was having quite a bit more (though after dc in bed) and it was too much. I can easily stop each night, and leave some in the glass on the table, so am not worried at the moment. but there have been times where stopping on any night was hard, and that to me, is very worriesome. when worried, cutting back is always a good idea. if you can do it, then you have no problem. and if you can't , then you know you need help.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 09:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I do the same 2-3 glasses, and I am now worried because I need it every night. Like you, I don't think about it at all during the day, but come 6:30, I pour a glass of wine. Am so confused about finding a meeting in NYC. Going to an "Open Meeting" seems so scary. Does anyone know if there are meetings for just women or moms?
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 04:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't know specifically about nyc, but in boston, there were meetings for women. this was 10 years ago, but I think I remember correctly. I would bet the website can tell you; if not the hotline number.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 04:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Here is the website for NY AA. There is a meeting guide, and you can also call them. They'll find a good meeting for you. http://www.nyintergroup.org/meetinglist/
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 09:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Depends on how big the glasses are! 1/2 bottle or less, okay, but watch out for calories, and sleep disturbance. More, I'd try to cut back, and alternate drinks with something nonalcoholic in the evening. Does dh drink wine too?
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 04:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Unfortunately, he doesn't get home until late on weekdays - after my 2-3ish. He will have wine on the weekends.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 04:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Maybe have one glass, once kids are in bed, and just do not have another one until he gets home, so you can relax together. That way you will be cutting down to 2 a day...
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 04:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
why the specific comments about bfeeding? I'm sure I read 2 drinks a day is ok for bfeeding moms, and certainly if they are timed after baby goes to sleep, if baby sleeps 4 hours at least. I don't think of 2-3 as a big deal but think it would be good to have at least 1 day a week with no alcohol, so you know you can do it. Are people really going to AA for 2 glasses of wine a night?
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 05:07 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm with you. Two glasses of wine are fine!
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 05:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: ITA, however, OP is saying 2 to 3, which is really 3 and that could get out of hand.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 05:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
nobody has fun anymore. No more drinking or enjoyable eating. I love going to Europe where the wine flows and people eat without counting every calorie.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 06:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Drinking 3 glasses a wine every single night b/c you "f'ing deserve it" b/c you've "survived" another day IS a problem. There's a better way to live your life than using substances to numb you from your existance. Better to fix the underlying problem.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]THen you go to AA - maybe she needs klonopin
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I'm totally with you!!!! What's up with these Americans (although I am, too) who go to AA meetings because they are having 2-3 glasses per night? Ridiculous!
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]cannot stand it - cannot stand self righteous AA members who seem to want to recruit everyone who drinks and thinks sobriety is the only way to live. Now I am not saying this is everyone but many do.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I have watched friends and family members fall apart b/c of their drinking. Relationships/marriages torn apart, career down the tubes. One that ended in his suicide. These were the ones that should have gone to AA but never thought they had a problem b/c they were "only drinking ___" fill in the blank, "wine", or "at night" or some other random thing (which was either true only at the begining or was never true at all).
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Clearly, they had problems. Is that how you live? Oh, someone committed suicide because of drinking. Drinking is bad. If you do, you should go to AA meetings... I enjoy my wine in the evenings. Thank you very much.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Clearly they had problems, yes, and we all saw it, but they all had excuses for why they didn't really have a problem. That's where AA comes in. I find it odd that AA should upset you so much. I don't drink often, but I don't deny myself. I would never find AA threatening. Why do you?
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I don't think I read the word threatening anywhere. I do, however, see AA posters on each and every post discussing drinking - even if it's lighthearted.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 09:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I would hate to meet someone like you in person- who doesn't drink often, who is not a drinker- which is fine but has on tolerance for others who love to enjoy their drinks. As a wine lover, I don't look down on non-drinkers as losers who have no fun in their lives.
[ Reply | Options ]10.29.09, 05:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
ITA. Drinking is a SYMPTOM of a PROBLEM. Not the PROBLEM itself! It's a maladaptive coping mechanism, like any other (e.g., starving oneself, compulsive exercising, OCD tendencies, etc.)
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I only drink about 1 or 2 glasses maximum per week. I just don't need it that much, I guess.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 06:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Would like to add my voice to the "incredibly freeing" chorus. I stopped 8 years ago, and am so glad and grateful. When I think of the years and years of worrying about is it too much and do i have a problem and how much is everyone else drinking, and tomorrow I'll drink less -- feh! Also, I continued to drink through 2 therapists -- I told them I was worried but neither told me what I needed to hear: that if I was worried I probably SHOULD be. Good luck to you.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 06:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hi, OP. I started the same way as you, with a couple glasses as a reward. Over time, it started becoming more and more and I'd start rewarding myself for less and less. And on a health-related note, women are advised not to have more than 1-2 glasses of wine per night (though more once in a while certainly won't hurt you). I do think you should keep a close eye on your drinking and your attitude towards it (e.g. thinking about that first glass all day), especially if you have a family history of alcoholism.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 09:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Just ask yourself this: If anything happened to one of your dcs in that window of time while you are alone drinking before dh gets home, would you be able to think clearly enough and be sober enough to deal with the problem? Because let's face it, even if they're asleep, you're still the parent on duty. I mention this because it DID happen to me back when I had one dc and dh was over at his sister's house... I had had 3 glasses with/after dinner, and dc woke up around 11 pm, vomiting with a stomach bug. Had to change sheets, clothes, everything... it was a mess! I was buzzed at it was NOT easy to deal with. thankfully it wasn't anything we had to go to the ER for, but I was definitely imagining that scenario and I really wouldn't have been able to get us there safely. P.S. Are you drinking with a meal/some food? That always helps reduce the drunkenness factor!
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 09:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np I can easily take care of my child on 2-3 glasses of wine. We drink when we go out to lunch or dinner with her too. It's not a problem. If you get very drunk that's different story. I only do that when I get to go to an occasional concert and by the time I get home I'm pretty sober
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 09:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Me, too, I can easily take cares of dcs. However, I don't drive, so if there were an emergency I would have to take a cab anyway.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 10:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]me either and I live right across the street from the ER. Remarkably we only went once in 3.5 years
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 12:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I do have to agree with the posters who are saying that you should not view life as something to survive. I think that is a very good point, and it speaks to me as well, b/c lately I have found myself falling into that toxic way of thinking myself. And, to "reward" myself, I was having up to 3 glasses of wine/night on a month-long basis. But it really did start to impact me and my moods (I was much snappier w/the kids, not as productive, not as "on" in the mornings-- and I have to wake up very early, etc. ). So I gave it up for a week which was actually tougher than I thought it would be. Now I have 1 glass every two nights, probably. But I am actually really thinking of limiting it to the wknds. If nothing else, it's really not that good for your body (despite what all these studies say) or your mental strength, long-term. Most of all, though, I find that feeling of really depending on something far too frightening. Alcoholism, I have read, is a progressive disease.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 02:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np you see I just don't analyze anything like you. I don't really count with food or drinks. I don't drink so much as to be hungover so I'm fine. I'm skinny so I don't count calories or fat or cholesterol etc. I just can't go through life like this. Conscious limitations in life are all about control to me just like anorexics limit food. I get a yearly physical and if all is well I keep going without much thought
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 03:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]NP here, but that's great that you don't need to analyze things. Some people have to count calories or they gain weight. Some people have to watch their drinking or they develop an addiction. If all is well with you, that's fantastic, but this approach simply does not work for everyone.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 03:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I know that. I eat a good diet - I just trying to say things like oh if I want butter I am not going to analyze it and look at how many grams of fat or C are in it and add it to my daily calculator - for health or weight reasons. It's not just weight but that's who it came out. Just saying how I live.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 04:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
OR: Good for you! I, too, am slim and have never worried about food. I am lucky about that, but I've realized that I do have to be more aware these days of my drinking. It's not like I was drinking a bottle of night, but 2-3 glasses can limit my productivity and, with three very small children, not much help, and more of a "Type A" personality, I need to be ultra-productive.
[ Reply | Options ]10.28.09, 08:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I am the exact opposite. I'm lazy. Never feel the urge to be super-productive. I have enough stress in my life. I also only have one child because that's all I want. No help though but I have a very involved dh
[ Reply | Options ]10.28.09, 04:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
you know yourself well enough to figure out if you're out of control. I think we all go thru stages when we drink a lot or not! as long as its not overtaking your life, I think jumping into AA is a bit extreme!
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 03:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] When cooking first solids to 6 mos DD, can I use salt to add some flavor to the food?... 43 replies
- in processed foods. besides, i thought babies preferred bland foods, something about their palate not being well-developed. I'm...first obviously. Be mindful of their reactions to all foods and adjust accordingly. Making meals solely for babies only...certain way etc.Also they have different "tastes" than us-bland food works fine at this age.Stay clear from the stupid...sure. almost anything DC wouldn't choke on or that was an allergy hazard (nephew has some serious...
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When cooking first solids to 6 mos DD, can I use salt to add some flavor to the food?
43 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.25.09, 01:08 PM [ Flag ]Don't add salt. DC won't know the difference and if you add salt now dc will develop a preference for salty food later on.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 01:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I used salt when dd became a toddler tasted much better
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 04:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
OF COURSE you should season their food! Would YOU like to eat bland food? Add whatever spice you like, and expand your kid's taste buds so he/she doesn't grow up with some mundane boring American palate...
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 02:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: but salt in particular is not a great choice - most of us get way more than the recommended daily allowance of sodium, and sodium is a key ingredient in processed foods. besides, i thought babies preferred bland foods, something about their palate not being well-developed. I'm sure the comeback is going to be something like babies in India are eating hot curries at 8 mos, but I'd be slow to introduce something to an underdeveloped digestive system.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 02:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]that's the key- packaged foods. If this mom is cooking her dc's foods it isn't packaged. The body actually needs a certain amount of salt to keep electrolytes in balance. Don't tell the woman to completely avoid salt!
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 05:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
THIS is why they have such picky eaters: NASTY tasteless food
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 03:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]NP But any reading on infant health will point out that their bodies cannot process salt (seriously, more than like 1/2 tsp a day is I believe too much). Fruits and veggies may not need salt -- and there are spices out there to offer instead. PS OP clearly you should ask a ped about this as UB is filled with people with plenty of opinions and not much knowledge.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]as are pediatricians. most people on the PLANET give their children the food that they eat - the problem is that you guys are used to the amount of salt in processed food.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I wouldn't. Plenty of salt when they start eating what you're eating, but there is flavor enough (esp. compared to baby food) when solids are introduced and in pre-made food.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 03:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]please cook like you would cook.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 03:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]There are so many ways to flavor without salt. You can saute onions with olive oil and then puree. You can add herbs. You can try all sort of things like that.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 03:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]and it will taste like nasty sauteed onions. salt the food, already.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 03:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]salt is very unhealthy and once they eat anything everyone else does, cook it w/chicken stock or olive oil and then only minimum amts of salt are needed
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 03:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]chicken stock has salt - that's why you don't need to add it silly
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 04:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: duh! Even the low sodium kind has it. I read somewhere that you couldn't possibly add as much real salt to a food as you would find in a pre-packaged food's sodium content. I don't really understand the difference, but it's true when you look at some of the labels- shocking!
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 04:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np Maybe the poster makes her own stock. I do agree with the general idea that home-cooked food needs salt. It's the processed & restaurant food (yes including canned stock) that goes overboard.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 05:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
you need a touch of salt to make everything else taste better- if you are a cook you would know this. It brings out the flavors of all the foods.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 04:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
yeah it's fine. my mom fed my kid something with pesto the other day and he loved it! (14 month old)
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 03:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]doesn't pesto have pine nuts in it? aren't you supposed to avoid nuts until after the second birthday?
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 03:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]They changed the rules - eat nuts in the first year due to so many nut allergies.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 05:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]They have not changed this rule. You cannot offer nuts to a 6 mo!
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 06:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]sure you can.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]guess what - not everyone follows all these rules which change. Most kids watch tv as toddlers much to the anti tv mafia mom's dismay and the 2yo rule.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]the rule is no nuts before one year. Some people do nuts after 12 months, some do nuts after 2 years- no one recommends nuts under a year of age-
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 09:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]My ped said no nuts before age 2
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 07:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes, some say this, others say after a year is ok. these are the two schools of thought. No one says prior to a year-
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
NO - don't get them addicted to salt - they don't need it. don't get them hooked on anything they don't need like sugar and salt - they don't know it until introduced - those baby yogurts are ridiculous with all the added sugar.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 04:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Like with ANYTHING, moderation is key. Use a little salt and like the other poster suggested, use other spices too to get your kid used to it. Dc who grow up eating curry, cumin, peppers, etc. parents weren't afraid to add a little flavor and the kids are all the better eaters for it. My dc eat everything under the sun. And yes, I use salt. It's different from "sodium" that you find in packaged/canned foods.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 04:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Feed your child whatever you eat, blend it up first obviously. Be mindful of their reactions to all foods and adjust accordingly. Making meals solely for babies only adds to the workload.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 05:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]MD mom here, with my mom pediatrician-DO NOT add salt in a baby's food!their excretory(kidney)function is immature still, and they cannot regulate their sodium/water balance yet.They are not able to eliminate an excess of salt or water, and that's why you don't give freely water to a baby and you have to make formula in a certain way etc.Also they have different "tastes" than us-bland food works fine at this age.Stay clear from the stupid advice given here to make food more "palatable"and PLEASE call your pediatrician and ask if you are not sure.Pediatricians are very happy to give you advice if you have any questions(especially considering the alternative-a lethargic baby overloaded with soium)
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]"sodium"
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]no kidding what STUPID advice. DO NOT ADD SALT to the baby's food.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 06:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]What age can you start adding a little salt?
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
No, their little systems can't take it yet. Just simple foods -- fruits, veggies, grains. At 6 mos just stick with the basics. Honestly at that age cereal mixed w/pumped milk or formula will prob be their favorite thing anyway
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 07:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]NO SALT in baby food! Even the manufactured baby food has removed salt because babies shouldn't have it. When your child is a toddler, add some nice olive oil and a touch of salt to his veggies so he'll enjoy them.
[ Reply | Options ]10.25.09, 08:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Sure. Anything in moderation. You do offer food from your own plate too, right?
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 05:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]6 months old?food from your own plate???
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 06:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]of course. anything mushy or something he can suck on.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 06:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]of course food from your own plate.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 06:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]sure. almost anything DC wouldn't choke on or that was an allergy hazard (nephew has some serious allergies, so things like peanut sauces were not going to happen). DB loved little bites of couscous that had soaked up pan sauces.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i did not use salt but did use spices (cinnamon,etc.) to get ds interested in flavors.
[ Reply | Options ]10.26.09, 06:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Do not introduce salt right away! Give plain monocomponent veggies/fruits as first solids. Let your dd develop her palette and food preferences before you obscure it by adding salt/sugar. It'll be easier for you too. How would you know if your dd hates green beans, or simply not enough/too much salt in them? I started adding a tiny bit of salt to ds's soups around 9-10 months. Sugar after 18mo. He has very healthy eating habbits fwiw.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 08:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I agree with the salt but absolutely spice to your heart's content- this is how babies develop a well rounded palate, in my opinion. Expose them to new stuff? My ds loves cinnamon, and things sauteed in lots of garlic and olive oil.
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 09:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] how long are most playdates after school? 22 replies
- advance if the kids want to do dinner together, with the parents. With dd's best friends, we often do dinner, it's hard though for dd to do a dinner at someone else's house due to food allergies though. If both girls can do the bus (only a few of dd's friends can take the bus), they usually try to get homework finished on the bus, so they can play when they get home....
Talk : : October 23, 2009
how long are most playdates after school?
22 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.23.09, 10:41 AM [ Flag ]depends how old the children are
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 10:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]2-3 hours.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 10:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hijack - do playdates ever involve early dinner with the child? I went to pick up and nanny was feeding dcs - I didn't mean this to happen, and felt sheepish.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 10:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]What time was it? If it is before 5:30 I would not think twice- that is early for dinner and if nanny fed dc it was only because other child eats early.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 10:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]It was getting toward 6 - but I work, so that's when pickup has to be. We don't eat so early.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 10:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Did you tell other parent or nanny that it would be close to 6? That is late, imo. Most of dc's playdates are picked up at 5. That gives them time to get home to eat dinner at 6 and for me to make dinner for my family to eat together at 6. I wouldn't want someone's child hanging around here so late. What about homework time?
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 10:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: It is not a big deal. When we do afterschool playdates, half the time the kids eat dinner before playdate child leaves. Easier to get started on HW right after. Sometimes they do at least part of the HW during playdate. I find feeding dinner easier than supplying endless snacks than lead to no dinner being eaten afterwards.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I supply an after school snack. If the playdate is over at about 5 and the kids are hungry I tell them it is almost time for dinner.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]We never have playdates over that early, since we don't get back from school until 3:45 or so it would not give kids time to play. Between 5:30 and 6 is typical, but we have dc here till 7. They did homework together in that instance, and it worked very well actually.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np. wohms who might otherwise use afterschool typically can't pick up before 6. it's not so unusual, and since dinnertime is 6 at our house, seeing someone out the door at that time doesn't really cut into homework time.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Right, but she should tell the other parent or nanny that she will have no choice but to pick up her child at 6.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I did.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]So don't worry about it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
poster above said most playdates end at 5 and that later than that is rude (presumably whether mom made it clear or nor) and allows no time for homework. i was disputing all of the above.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Yes, I did say 6.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]then there is no issue. Are you upset that they gave dc dinner?
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
We do homework and then the kids play. Usually we discuss in advance if the kids want to do dinner together, with the parents. With dd's best friends, we often do dinner, it's hard though for dd to do a dinner at someone else's house due to food allergies though. If both girls can do the bus (only a few of dd's friends can take the bus), they usually try to get homework finished on the bus, so they can play when they get home.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
anywhere from 1.5-3 hrs. Some dc eat dinner before 6pm, so I think a playdate that goes past 5pm, nannies will give dinner to playdate too. no big deal.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: sometimes the kids eat a better dinner when their friend eats with them.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
It depends entirely on the children and the parents involved. Anything from 5 minutes to 5 hours (or more).
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]As they get older, hours and hours. DS does homework with his best buds then a little guitar hero, etc. We have kids over all the time for dinner, or my guys are at friend's houses for the same.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 11:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]at our school they usually go til 6:30, but our school isn't a "neighborhood school" and I think that makes them longer b/c the kids go to eachothers home straight from school and usually get picked up after dinner.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 02:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] My DC's preschool is in the process of establishing rules for dealing with food aller... 13 replies
- most pre-schools are completely nut-free and may remove certain foods from the classroom if there is an allergic DC...
- different food allergies often present different side effects. I know a...in any classroom. The reality is that most other allergies are only an issue with ingestion....
- young DCs, using reasonable parameters depending on the specific allergies at issue....
Talk : : October 22, 2009
My DC's preschool is in the process of establishing rules for dealing with food allergies. I was wondering what other preschools/nursery schools do about allergies? For example, if a child has a life-threatening food allergy, is that food banned from the classroom or the school? Thanks!
13 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.22.09, 08:14 AM [ Flag ]our preschool had a separate "allergy" table at lunch. In addition parents could leave those pen-things with the school for the teachers to administer just in case something went awry. In the 2 1/2 years we were there no one had a problem.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]our preschool bans some foods. no peanut butter, and one year no tree nuts either. however, they don't ban milk boxes when there is a child with milk allergy, and i think one year there was a child with celiac and we could stil send sandwiches.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]different food allergies often present different side effects. I know a celiac that gets bad stomach pains. She will be very uncomfortable, but wouldn't ever die from it. She is not as sensitive as her uncle, who wont allow gluten to be served on a table he is eating at, incase a little crumb gets on his plate. I've also never heard of anyone dying from a milk allergy. I'm allergic to nuts, but serve my ds almond butter all the time. I've never had an issue, just always wash my hands right away!
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]You are an adult, capable of managing your allergy and responsible enough to wash your hands after touching a nut butter. Pre-school aged DCs are notorious for wiping their hands on their clothes instead. It makes sense that schools will be more protective of young DCs, using reasonable parameters depending on the specific allergies at issue.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]My nut allergy is also not severe (I think the point I was going for...I touch nut butter and don't die). Not all children's allergies have the same severity. Some people can breathe it in and have a reaction. So the rule for the class/school would also depend on the severity of the allergy.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 11:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
most preschools have nut-free policies.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]apparently they don't. Oh, you meant peanuts.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]our was ALL nuts free (excluding the parents, of course).
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
most pre-schools are completely nut-free and may remove certain foods from the classroom if there is an allergic DC in that room. 3/4/5 y/o's have a much harder time with not sharing food and don't understand allergies (even the allergic DC will not always remember/understand why they can't share). Older DCs are better able to manage the situation.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]A boy in our class had a daily and egg allergy so we couldn't send in dairy with lunches. No one minded. You just get used to it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]our preschool will ban from the class any food that the child's doctor attests can cause a life threatening reaction without ingestion, but rather just by coming into contact with the food. So far, only nuts have ever been banned in any classroom. The reality is that most other allergies are only an issue with ingestion.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]our preschool banned any peanut products and didn't let the kids share food.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 11:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: Thanks everyone for your responses!
[ Reply | Options ]10.27.09, 12:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Any moms who can give me advice on turning around a toddler's insanely picky eating h... 53 replies
- eat them without noticing etc. Don't forget food is a control issue, rather than a gustatory...they do. dairy is also important (assuming no allergies). try to mix some green veggies into...
- everyone I know made homemade baby food (except me)...
- her plate. Ultimately she started going for those foods and I couldn't believe. Whatever you do...mind that taste buds change throughout our lives; food(s) that are truly repugnant to kids (I...
Talk : : October 22, 2009
Any moms who can give me advice on turning around a toddler's insanely picky eating habits? Esp from f/t WOHMs? Confession: we have been doing everything "wrong," it seems, from day 1. I used jarred babyfood, not homemade. My son refused most "real" foods until 15 months and we didn't force the issue. Now he is 2.5 and eats most meals with the nanny - she gives him dinner at 5, I get home 6 - 6:30. He literally eats eight things - cereal (cheerios, crispix), yogurt, hummus (one kind), corn, peanut butter, American cheese, applesauce and pureed pears. With his nanny, he eats slightly better, apparently (though I've never witnessed this). I've tried offering new foods at every meal since the beginning, like Ellen Satter suggests. He's never so much as tasted a single thing not on that list. Tried cooking with him: nope. I've tried the "eat this or nothing" approach and he eats nothing. How can I turn this ship around? Useful comments, not flames, would be appreciated. Eating every meal together isn't realistic, obviously, though I could tell the nanny not to give him dinner and make him wait until 7pm to eat.
53 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.22.09, 07:27 AM [ Flag ]don't be so hard on yourself! he's eating a pretty good variety--protein, whole grains, dairy, and fruit. be glad he's not a plain, white-pasta monster.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ita - as long as it's fresh, healthy and covers all the food groups I wouldn't stress.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
what does the nanny do?
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]i don't know anyone who makes homemade baby food. SAH or working.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]you don't know me, but i did.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]me too. wohm. still make almost all of her meals.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ditto, and i cook a lot still wiht older kids. OP: go with Satter's plan, get nanny on board. works for us
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]op: honestly, I've tried satter's plan to the extent that I can. On the weekends, we offer new foods at every meal, exactly as she suggests. DS has never once tried a single new thing in well over a year. Satter makes a big deal out of eating with your kids every meal, but this is simply not realistic for us. All those advice books are geared towards SAH parents, imo.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]i WOH and i eat dinner with my kids jsut about every night, and usually if i am not their dad is. For me the secret with Satter was to stop caring. you provide healthy choices adn then just sit back. your kid's taste will expand as he gets older.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: so if your kids won't eat what's served, do you just give bread as she suggests? I tried this for a week when my nanny was on vacation this summer, and DS ate nothing but bread for dinner. Eventually I gave up and served him some hummus and corn.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]i always have some part of the meal be something they have eaten before,not always bread -- although some days that's all the little one eats for dinner. Other days, all she eats is shrimp, other days, she eats everything. your child will not starve herself, adn you can give her a vitamin to feel better about nutrition.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]op: I guess I don't see what I'm doing differently now, then. I give him some food he likes and try to put whatever dh and I are eating on his plate. We've been doing this for a year. He's never ONCE put a new food into his mouth (actually he freaks out when we try to put it on his plate). Frankly I'm kind of doubting that he ever will try anything new. IMO Satter is only good for kids who are willing to try new stuff.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 09:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]you child is at the beginning of, IME, the pickiest age. you can't force her to eat new foods, so you have to either keep giving her just what she wants forever, or try to get her interested in new things. if you are fine with things as they are, leave them.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 09:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]op: sigh...I've tried so hard to interest him in new things...I just don't know what else to do. I try and try. Tried cooking, offering, making the food look "fun"...he will NOT put a bite into his mouth. It's been these 8 foods for well over a year.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]you may need to just wait itout. model good eating. have lots of healthy choices available. and then try to relax.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 12:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Yes, but don't let this discourage you. Try to make the best of it. DS is fed dinner by nanny at 5pm but at 7pm I'll sit down and eat my dinner and he'll have Cheerios and pieces of what I am eating. Eating together is really key, IMHO.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I made all the food, but I don't know anyone else who did, so jarred food seems to be the norm, in my world anyway.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]everyone I know made homemade baby food (except me)
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I did (on weekends, during the week the nanny did). It's really easy.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I did and my db eats almost anything now. Try not to let db snack so much in between meals and offer him one option. If he is hungry he will eat. Avoid all the sugar/salt. I give my db juice e.g sometimes, but alot of the time I offer water or milk. GL!
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 10:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I did. WOHM fulltime. Not to say I didn't have the jarred stuff, but I made a majority of it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 06:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
The biggest role model for eating for your ds are you and your dh... what do you eat. Do you eat at the table together.... it is actually pretty serious state of diet he has... you need to take the time to have family meals and show by example by eating lots of veggies, fruit and such
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]He eats fine. Introduce onen new food every day or so and plan on having to offer it three or four times before he'll eat it. Don't push it or even mention it...just add a couple of small pieces of chicken or something to his plate and see what he does (and btw, you haven't been doing anything "wrong")
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]op: We offer new foods at EVERY meal. I can tell you what ds does - gets very angry and insists it be removed from his plate before he eats. We have been trying the Satter thing for a YEAR. DOES. NOT. WORK.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Don't introduce a new food every day. Pick ONE new food (say, chicken) and put it on his plate. When he has a fit, calmly remove it. A couple of days later put the same new food on his plate. When he has a fit, calmly remove it. Repeat every other or every third day. Calmly is the key here, looks like you're stressing on this way more than you need to.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 09:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I think too much emphasis is placed on getting a toddler to gain a wide palate of tastes. I didn't like peas until I turned 30, who cares? As long as they eat nutritious, balanced meals, and are exposed to new things (whether or not they'll eat them), their tastes will develop with time. I do try to get more veggies in her in varied ways, like baking carrot muffins with a tons of carrots in them, or pureeing some brocoli in the cheese sauce so she'll eat them without noticing etc. Don't forget food is a control issue, rather than a gustatory issue at this age.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Similar to my 4 kids - around 5/6 they get more adventurous - I insist on a cup of Green Goddess juice at eachmeal and my ped it okay with it. Within a year you will probably be able to add chicken nuggets, hot dogs and pizza....
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]what is green goddess, and why in the world would she give him crap if she wants him to eat properly?
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Troll - Green Goddess is a juice made at juicing places also by Boalthouse Farms - find it in the fridge in the produce department - my kids like it and it has all sorts of fruits and veggies in it - yes it would be great if they would eat kale and broccolli, but they don't, so this is a substitute.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]some of us need to pick our battles and compromise
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 07:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]the crap part is about the "probably..chicken nuggets, hotdogs, pizza" part.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i actually think your 2.5 yo eats a pretty good diet. he's missing green veggies, but i don't think it's a big deal. talk to your ped, but when our dd was that age and wouldn't eat anything but carbs, our ped said that most little ones' diet is very carb-heavy, and that little kids actually need many more carbs than grownups think they do. dairy is also important (assuming no allergies). try to mix some green veggies into things like potato pancakes, and really, don't worry.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Lol, you are assuming he eats potato pancakes. No, no. When I say he eats EIGHT things, I mean eight. There's no sneaking anything. On the plus side, he won't eat most junk food, either. He refuses to try chocolate.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]THIS IS MY SON. omg. so frustrating... but hang in there is what i am told
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yours too? I thought I had the only one...I am just so frustrated and exhausted by this. I want a normal kid who will eat pizza, for pete's sake. He won't even try different kinds of cheese.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 08:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]My 3 yr old is exactly like this. I feel like screaming some nights. He will eat a banana monday then the rest of the week he doesn't like them. I made the baby food as well and he ate everything. Now the only veg he will eat is peas, baby food peas. And fruit, peaches and pears and apple sauce. baby food. Ped said who cares , as long as they get the nutrients. But it worries me. Helps to hear that so many of us are in the same boat.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 10:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
really, don't stress! so he goes without a green veggie for a few more years. it's really not going to hurt him at all. my dd was the pickiest eater at that age (one of the plain white pasta kids), and now, at 8 years old, will literally try anything at least once. she's still not a huge green veggie lover, but has enough variety in her diet that no one is at all concerned. as they age, the protein/carbs balance tends to shift in favor of protein. (btw, have you tried avocado? my dd never liked it, but i've heard that a lot of picky kids do. great food for kids.)
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 09:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I think it's a combo of child's age and personality and not a lot you can do about it at this stage. You can try home made smoothies, and maybe a juicer to get more fresh good stuff in him.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 09:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]does he snack? if so, cut them out.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 09:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Are you talking about my child? She's very similar. I don't think we did anything "wrong", though. We offered and left it up to her to eat or not. Most of the time she did not. She's now 8 and her eating habits have not changed much (but peer pressure from her classmate is setting in). Since she is covering all the food groups somehow and was never sick and seems to be developing really well we stopped being concerned years ago.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 09:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]My only suggestion is to serve more complex foods. My picky eater started branching out more when I began letting her eat from my plate. So, I upped the ante a bit after awhile and put lasanga, fish with sauce, grain-salads (like lentil or barley), soups (purees or bisques), fruit kabobs, chicken with a sauce, etc. on her plate. Ultimately she started going for those foods and I couldn't believe. Whatever you do, do defer to the bad-for-you foods for kids like chic nuggets or lunchables etc., not that yours would necessarily eat those right now. But you don't want him to get in the habit.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]loolllll. op here. My dc would NEVER eat from my plate! we always offer. Like I said above, the only good thing is that he won't try any new foods at all, so lunchables or whatever aren't on the menu either.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think that's the most important thing: no junk. If all he eats are 8 foods that are all healthy and you can manage to get all 4 food groups every day, he's getting all he needs.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 03:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
my doc says that kids generally eat what their bodies need and food habits change over time, so just hang in there
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 10:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hope you will find this useful. I had a DD who cried at the mention of every meal, ate practically nothing, and this was the cause of endless tantrums and tears and timeouts. Despite my ped's recommendations to let it go, I used all means possible (tv, stickers, reward charts, bribery) to get her to eat what I thought she needed. The result was just more stress and tantrums. With #2, he stopped eating anything around 1, and I just said, I can't go through the same thing again, I simply refuse to do anything beyond serving him a meal. He does not want it, he does not eat it. He ate next to nothing for a year (though did not loose much weight at all), and at 2 he is eating lots of things and is a pretty good eater. DD is 6.5 and meals are no longer an issue as well. She simply outgrew her pickiness. She eats a bunch of things, and I don't stress about it anymore.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 11:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Thanks. That does help. I try not to stress about if nothing else it is inconvenient! I can't tell you how often I've schlepped little bowls of hummus and corn to a restaurant or the park so I don't have to deal with hunger meltdown.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 03:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]did not lose much weight at all? he lost some weight from age 1 until 2 and your ped was not concerned? I don't understand how this is okay!
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 10:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I highly doubt because you have him jarred food and didn't push the 'real food' at a year that he's a picky eater. Some kids are just picky. The DB I take care of had jar food and didn't go to real food until almost 14 months and now at 2 she is a wonderful eater. Don't be so hard on yourself. Some kids are just difficult eaters, especially at that age.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 12:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]When you go out, bring a new food -- like yogurt. Tell him that is all you have. If he doesn't want it, he has to wait until you get home to eat something else. Do the same thing with things like string cheese, slices of fruit, turkey roll ups, whole grain pasta. Serve him new foods every now and then and be relaxed about it. Let him help in the prep work.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 12:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]My ds who is almost 2 is also a very pick eater. I realized that sometime if I give him something new and walk away for a minute he will actually eat it. (I always make sure to be nearby so he doesn't choke and check on him often) But I think part of it is a power struggle and he will be more likely to eat if you are not there to see him refuse.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 12:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]op: it has to be a power thing right? or he wouldn't eat better when he's with the nanny. She says he eats chicken and eggs. I find myself doubting her because when I serve him those foods he SCREAMS. But I don't know why she would lie about it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 03:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Does she have photographic proof? LOL. My one yo DS won't nap in his Pack N Play (he wants to nap on me) but the nanny gets him to do it and I didn't believe it until I saw pictures. Kids are better with nannies I think bc they try to get away wtih more with mommy.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 06:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Unlike my my omnivorous brothers, as I child I ate (maybe) five things --for YEARS. Since I was rarely sick, was getting a multivitamin (and loved apples!), my mother took the long view rather than create an issue about my pickiness. She figured that my taste would eventually change for the better. Smart lady. I now eat a variety of foods and in fact, can't get enough of all those veggies I refused to eat as a kid! Please keep in mind that taste buds change throughout our lives; food(s) that are truly repugnant to kids (I couldn't stand the smell of peas--let alone EAT them), might be just fine for them as adults. As long as your child is healthy, I would relax. After all, creating a stressful environment over this issue is not exactly in the best interest of anyone.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 06:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Our toddler is 2.5. We'd like to get a dog. Husband and I have both had dogs so exp... 12 replies
- kids, but what I have seen so far is that he is good at snatching food from kids....
- mine he agrees they are the best dogs for all of the above (he has bad allergies and she never bothered him, too). there are plenty of "rescue" groups out there...to get that exercise in. I've also had cockapoos, which would be good for allergies, but they just had so many health problems...
Talk : : October 21, 2009
Our toddler is 2.5. We'd like to get a dog. Husband and I have both had dogs so experienced. Not sure if our child is too small. We'd like to adopt from shelter but I might have to go with a pure breed to be sure of temperament and because of allergies :( Any suggestions about toddler & dog, breeds, apartment dog etc
12 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.21.09, 07:59 PM [ Flag ]I would wait until 4 or 5. My 5 year old is just getting interested in learning about our dog, and the 2-4 years were a little dicey. Maybe it depends on the dog. We have a terrier, breed that is supposed to be good with kids, but what I have seen so far is that he is good at snatching food from kids.
[ Reply | Options ]10.21.09, 08:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]so funny. i had a terrier mix and as lovely as the dog was (smart, loving, an amazing dog), definitely wouldn't have been good with kids, especially toddlers.
[ Reply | Options ]10.21.09, 08:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA. Terrier personality and kids are a bad combo.. terrier's are really strong willed and need to be alphas.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 03:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
No child is too small to have a dog. Just get the right kind of dog, and TRAIN it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.21.09, 09:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Have friends who were looking for a smallish, kid-friendly, low-allergen dog and ended up with a Coton de Tulear that they love. I'm not usually a small fluffy dog person, but he is adorable, very mellow and great with kids. I love all the big kid-friendly breeds like Labs and Goldens but lordy--the shedding not to mention the energy level...
[ Reply | Options ]10.21.09, 09:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]toy or miniature poodle - very smart, train easy, athletic (yes, they are), neat, don't shed, fine in apt. just lost mine after 13.5 years (heartbroken) --- she loved my 1 & 3 yr old dcs, after she had been "only child" for 10 years. poodles are the best, or she was anyway. probably going to wait until my youngest is about 3 to get another. my dh wasn't sure about poodles but after mine he agrees they are the best dogs for all of the above (he has bad allergies and she never bothered him, too). there are plenty of "rescue" groups out there for poodles and many other breeds
[ Reply | Options ]10.21.09, 09:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]poodles, bijan, coton de tulear, havanese, maltese - all small, non shedding, apt dogs. I've had poodles, a maltese and now have a coton. They are all great. I have a toddler -2.5 was hard but now at 3 she is great with the dog. Learned not to pull his tail and annoy him and now they are starting to play together - fetch and tug of war - so so cute.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 03:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]My dd has had a dog since birth. We had a 1 year old yorkie when she was born. They play all the time, she is now 18 months old. I wouldn't adopt though. I would feel more comfortable having a dog around my child since their birth instead of after they're an older dog.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 04:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]i think it depends on the dog as to whether an older one would fit in, think it would be hard to housetrain until dcs understand not to touch the pee and poop. i would hate to go through housetraining and pottytraining at the same time! :)
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 04:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
We got our dog (mutt, Australian shepherd and terrier mix) when my son was the same age, and it was great. My son was an only child for a long time, so the dog is like a sibling. They wrestle and chase each other! About the breed, I don't think you could ask for a sweeter dog than an Australian shepherd, but they have A LOT of energy. We spend 2-3 hours in the park per day just letting him run. So maybe something a little more low-energy would be good, unless you and your husband jog/bike and it will be easy to get that exercise in. I've also had cockapoos, which would be good for allergies, but they just had so many health problems... our current dog has had none, so much healthier and happier.
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 04:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^And for us, adoption worked really well (our dog was a little over a year when we got him). It was easier for us not to deal with the puppy stuff, even though they are so cute, and we knew more about temperament since he was already an adult. Cannot say enough nice things about this dog experience!
[ Reply | Options ]10.22.09, 04:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Try to get in touch w a foster group, they take suitable dogs out of shelters or take them from people who just can't keep them anymore, and then place in foster homes while looking for permanent homes. Many of these fosterers will either have kids or assess temperment towards kids. We have a mellow lab mix who is great w my 6 month old. I understand that retired greyhounds are great w kids, super mellow, low exercise requirements and there are many knowledgable rescue groups there.
[ Reply | Options ]10.23.09, 12:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Do you feed guests at a dc's birthday party if it's not a standard mealtime? If we pu... 13 replies
- OP here. thanks, and true. Actually I can eat pizza anytime, too. Is there anything else? My kid has a milk allergy and I am fine serving dairy at the party, but I am stumped coming up with something easy to serve/make/whatever that she can have too. Hence my bagel idea. Cold cuts are gross, right? Foot long subs?...
Talk : : October 20, 2009
Do you feed guests at a dc's birthday party if it's not a standard mealtime? If we put out bagels, fruit, whatever else we can come up with, plus cake/drinks, is that about right? Don't want to go nuts serving a huge amount of food if no one is even going to eat but want to provide something besides just cake.
13 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.20.09, 04:36 PM [ Flag ]we always provide at least pizza for the kids, doesn't matter what time... kids eat pizza anytime.
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 04:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ha, very true!
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 04:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP here. thanks, and true. Actually I can eat pizza anytime, too. Is there anything else? My kid has a milk allergy and I am fine serving dairy at the party, but I am stumped coming up with something easy to serve/make/whatever that she can have too. Hence my bagel idea. Cold cuts are gross, right? Foot long subs?
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 04:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]"pizza" that is just dough, sauce, and veggies?
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 04:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]We do that at home, just never thought to serve it. Funny. Good idea.
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 04:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]delish. especially if you add some prosciutto! ;)
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 04:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Pizza, small crudite plate, small fruit plate- supermarkets have both prepared, bowl of pretzels, cake, done. Can you get your dd her own bagel?
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 05:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yep, dd can have a bagel! Done and done. I am excited. Good old school helpful UB advice.
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 05:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Have a fun party! btw- my friend forgot the soft drinks at her dc party and all grown ups were dying of thirst... Happy BDay!
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 05:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Then you'll be glad to know we are going to serve alcohol for the adults. :)
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 05:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I do fruit salad, cake, milk and juice.
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 07:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]That sounds perfect. BTDT
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 07:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Kids are probably too excited to eat much at a party anyway.
[ Reply | Options ]10.21.09, 07:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Have 18mo dd and can't figure out what to make for breakfast that she will love to ea... 13 replies
- dry cheerios, veggie wheels, fruit wheels found in baby food section in a round tin,...
- I make granola at home b/c dd has a nut allergy, but it's a fun project that your dd could do...s a good eater) she didn't like to eat real food until later in the morning, but a smoothie would hold...
- NP our kid has some food allergies, too, so we make up batches of muffins together and freeze them individually, then just take one out,...
Talk : : October 20, 2009
Have 18mo dd and can't figure out what to make for breakfast that she will love to eat. Any tips? Tried oatmeal, cereal w/milk, mini waffles, veggie sausage, eggs, dry cereal! Some days she will eat oatmeal then the next day she wont....They feed breakfast about 9:30 at her daycare but I don't want to send her off hungry if I can help it. TIA
13 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.20.09, 06:40 AM [ Flag ]yougurt, fruit, grilled cheese, trail mix
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 06:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]dry cheerios, veggie wheels, fruit wheels found in baby food section in a round tin,
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 06:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I make granola at home b/c dd has a nut allergy, but it's a fun project that your dd could do with you on a Sunday. You can have her "stir", "measure", etc. I know it sounds far fetched, and it will make a mess if she participates but she'll have fun. Look on foodnetwork.com, there are some receipes. I used an Alton Brown one and halved the sugar and its still delicious. It is also really easy and dd loves it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 06:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]NP our kid has some food allergies, too, so we make up batches of muffins together and freeze them individually, then just take one out, pop in microwave, and you're ready in like 30 seconds. Plenty of great recipes out there that will work for you. (Ditto quickbreads, she can help you cook...)
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 04:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Thanks
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 07:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]have you tried smoothies? my dd, at that age, drank a mango tango smoothie every morning. for some reason (and she's a good eater) she didn't like to eat real food until later in the morning, but a smoothie would hold her. She's 7yo now, and she has a smoothie upon waking, then later has a bagel or something else.
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 07:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Odwalla brand, btw.
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 07:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]great idea. I will try it!
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 01:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: smoothies are pretty easy to make, too ,if you have a blender. jsut get fruit your child likes adn whiz it up with milk, maybe yogurt; ifyou wan tit really cold you can add frozen banana
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 01:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ita. mango tango is loaded with sugar and more juice than a smoothie. make her a smoothie from scratch using milk or yogurt, way more nutritious.
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 03:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
lifeway kefir shakes are really good and have lots of probiotics. My dd loves them and that's about all she'll have in the am - sometimes some cereal
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 04:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
our two staples are some fruit mashed up with whole, greek yogurt, i.e. half a banana and some strawberries, and a soft boiled egg on buttered toast.
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 03:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Dont wory about sending her off hungry; if she's hungry she'll eat what you serve or ask for something else.
[ Reply | Options ]10.20.09, 04:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] I am getting really worries about dd's weight. She is so incredibly thin but really t... 60 replies
- maintain her weight. you should try to introduce more food (and maybe more options), little by little. My dd...eat and I always offer a wide variety of food and usually try to make dinner somewhat fattening....
- milk b/c we thought she had an allergy to it so we took her off it for...to always have snacks around and to share food; for whatever bizarre reason, she was much more...to engage her more in preparing and cooking foods, and that seems to get her more interested...
Talk : : October 17, 2009
I am getting really worries about dd's weight. She is so incredibly thin but really tall. She is 2 years old. She is still in 12-18 month shorts and skirts which fit weight wise but not height wise. I can't seem to get her to eat much at all. Right now she has a nutrigrain bar and either waffle or eggs for breakfast, little jar of yogurt for lunch, and a small dinner as well. She doesn't want any snacks during the day and doesn't drink a lot of juice. She weighs 23/24 pounds which puts her in the 10% tile for weight. She is just so thin - I can see all her ribs through her skin. She is active and healthy and I think she just burns most of it off running around but when do I worry. My side of the family is tiny, with no one weighing in at over 100 pounds until later in life. However, I noticed today that it looks like she has gotten even thinner. When do I worry or should I?
60 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.17.09, 11:01 AM [ Flag ]My husband and I are both on the short side and thin, as is our 18mo dd, but she eats at least double what yours does to maintain her weight. you should try to introduce more food (and maybe more options), little by little. My dd doesn't really like "kid" food all that much. But she loves pasta, edamame, tofu, hummus, almonds, granola... Offer her a variety of things and see what she likes. And keep offering her a variety of things, because what she likes today she might not like tomorrow and vice-versa. Good luck.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 11:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]my 3 yo is 25 pounds. THe ped said it's fine. Try KEfir yogurt shakes - my dd loves them. some kids are just skinny. I feed her whenever she wants.,Keep her on full fat everything - no low fat and smother everything with butyter. THat is not enough for lunch - will she eat pizza, nuggets, cheesesticks, crackers? Dd just started eating cream cheese and jelly on whole wheat - I'm happy she's eating a sandwich. Keep washed fruit out all the time so she can just grab it and offer all the time
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 11:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]A lot of kids will graze rather than sit down and eat at meal time
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 11:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Has she always been that %? my ds is still in 12-18mo too and it makes me nervous, but he's been consistent 20% or so since birth, so I try not to worry
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 12:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^oh, he does eat more, just not at meals- he's a grazer. I'll give him a pb sandwich when in stroller, or a granola bar etc.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 12:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: She was in the 25% tile at 1 and now at 2 she is only in the 10%. I just can't get her to eat and I always offer a wide variety of food and usually try to make dinner somewhat fattening.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
avocados!
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITA. No need to give a skinny kid a bunch of animal fat--it's still unhealthy for the heart.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]not all kids will eat avocado, my dd won't touch it. So dairy it is. It's fine for young kids. My ped said AOK
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you can put avocado in a blender with fruit (banana, berries) and yogurt! mmmm
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]tried it - it's a no go.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]do you use hass avocado or the larger green ones? i had to play around to get my ds to eat them too... now he actually loves guacamole.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]she won't touch gauc - I'm not OP - I'm the one with the 3 yo above. I get hass the other ones i find gross. I love them
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i love them too. and now i'm craving an avocado smoothie!
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 04:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
anyway my kid drinks Kefir and eats yogurt - no need to add avocado if she doesn't like it
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ok, well it is an idea for the OP. don't discourage her!
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]no she should try it. I don't even know if her kid drinks milk. Seems like she's not an eater. Mine isn't either but at least she drinks.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: The problem is that she is not an eater and hasn't tried any new food for months. Every time I bring something new out she cries and cries and cries and won't eat. She doesn't drink milk b/c we thought she had an allergy to it so we took her off it for a few months and now she won't drink it, not even chocolate milk. I try to introduce new food but then she literally will NOT eat and I can't risk her skipping meals.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 06:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]that's not great. why don't you try those kefir shakes I suggested. They are really yummy and healthy - probiotic and has a lot of protein and calcium. Mine didn't eat lunch or dinner today - just drank and had fruit. Usually she eats more than that but she drinks a lot of milk
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 06:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]will she eat macaroni and cheese or pasta with butter? try stoffers frozen mac and cheese instead of the boxed stuff which is gross.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np Or make it yourself; it's not rocket science.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 07:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]true but my kid won't eat it so I was making my suggestions. will only eat the frozen. I was like that when I was little too.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 04:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
It's fine until they're 2. Thereafter, it's the same as you or I eating a lot of saturated fat.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 04:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Why don't you get a nutritional supplement with high calories. My 17 month old DS weighs 25 pounds and he is a slim kid, who is also tall.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]that is not a low weight
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 03:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]it is much better to be thin than overweight at this age...if your ped doesn't see a problem, don't worry about it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 04:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]That is for UTI
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 04:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
This whole post sounds like some kind of sick twisted VBA. You're projecting your own eating disorder on your child. Yogurt is not a sufficient lunch for a child.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 04:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]It is when it's all she wants to eat. I didn't say it was all I offered. I offer her a lot of stuff but the minute she is done with the yogurt she cries and cries to take a nap. She will throw whatever else I give her. I am so sick of people saying that it's my fault and I am projecting it onto her. That is just pure BS, especially since you don't know me or my child. Plus, if I actually was doing this why would I be asking for help. DUH.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 06:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Ignore those posters OP. You've perfectly described my dd at that age and believe me, no eating disorders here. I was seriously concerned, but all is well.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 06:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Mine too, and the attitude I get from other people.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 07:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
maybe dont give yogurt one day, see what happens?
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 07:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yeah, no yogurt until she eats something else
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 06:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
It is your fault. You're the adult. Feed her ice cream for lunch if you have to. I'd be embarassed to have such a skinny kid.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 06:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: You are not helpful.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 07:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]really I'd be embarrassed to have a porker. Nothing wrong with being skinny. It's natural on some kids. I was always skinny and I am now a skinny adult
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 07:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'd be embarrassed if I passed my eating disorder onto my 2 year old. Seriously, only yogurt for lunch? That is screwed up. I'd rather have a solid two year old that grows up big and strong and can dance and play sports. BTW, just because you're skinny doesn't mean you're healthy.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 07:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]you're nuts can you read? She gives her kid lots of food but the kid only eats the yogurt. Nobody cares about your dd - this is about her child.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 08:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]what are you talking about? I don't have a DD. Her kid is skinny and she should do something about it. If this was a DS you'd all be worried, but it's good for DD to be skinny.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 08:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]no some kids are skinny, naturally skinny and there is nothing you can do about it. they may be skinny their entire life.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 09:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]and my skinny kid is very agile and jumps, plays and dances.They don't need to be bulky to do these things
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 09:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I wouldn't worry unless there are other developmental delays.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 05:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Add butter to everything! (Seriously.)
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Butter, ice cream, cheese. That's the advice we were given by a doctor, no kidding.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 06:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
If your pediatrician is concerned, she will likely send you to an endocrinologist to make sure there are no underlying physical problems. If doc is not concerned about height to weight ratio, do not worry too much.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 06:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i have a child who is also very thin for her age. not so tall though. here's my opinion. if she's in the same general weight percentile (and i think 25th to 10th is pretty much the same area), i wouldn't worry about it. the only thing that bothered me is that you said she cries about food. i'd bend over backwards not to make eating a problem issue.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 06:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]that's a good point. why would a toddler cry and cry and cry (op's words) about food? my dcs have not once cried about food.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 07:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP: I didn't say she cries and cries FOR food, she cries and cries when I introduce new food that she doesn't want to eat. If I try to feed her something new, she won't eat and will cry and cry. Plus, she also tells me when she is hungry, she comes up and say "mommy hungry" and I do feed her but she only eats a couple bites before she leaves the rest sitting there.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 08:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you need to find something that she will gobble a lot of one day. sounds like you need to get her belly used to having more food in it so she isnt sated from a few bites.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 06:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
My dc is the same, very thin, but I have discovered he likes to cook. He will sit with me and snack on things whilst I cook, and if he wants to eat a stick of butter, I let him.
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 07:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ASK A DOCTOR, NOT UB
[ Reply | Options ]10.17.09, 09:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Get your child to a pediatric nutritionist ASAP.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 07:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]omg that is over the edge. The kid is skinny let it go. Almost all picky eaters eat more as they grow. I spoke to my ped about this and he said it's fine. Some kids are just skinny
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 08:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]yeah, because there are no picky teens or adults with eating disorders
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 10:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes please take the kid to therapy now. ED's are usually nothing to do with food but with control. Read up on it
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 11:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I would ask her ped about it. The attitude with crying that she has toward trying new food doesn't really sound normal to me. My DD is 2 and also in some 12-18m clothes still, and weighs 22 lbs (2%!) but she eats and drinks a lot at times, not a lot other times. She wouldn't cry at new foods. Ask the ped and see if you can get a referral to a nutritionist, they can give you more ideas re: how to add cals.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 08:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]My daughter is even skinnier than yours -- and she started out in the 70th percentile and then just slowly made her way down to the <3 percentile by about 15 or 18 months. For obvious reasons, we were a little freaked about it, but our ped didn't worry until she hit that under 3 number (a.k.a., "failure to thrive). She was willing to eat a lot of different things . . . sometimes . . . but sometimes she just didn't seem hungry. She finally stopped dropping percentiles and has pushed above the magical "3" line and stayed there for the last year and a half. We did have her tested for celiac disease, but she didn't have it. We basically did what many here have suggested -- put butter on everything, keep her on whole milk, ice cream generally once a day. One other thing that helped for her was to always have snacks around and to share food; for whatever bizarre reason, she was much more interested in eating something off my plate than off hers (even if it was the same thing). Now that she's pushing three, I've started to engage her more in preparing and cooking foods, and that seems to get her more interested in trying them. I also just keep offering things, even if she says she doesn't like them (not at the same meal, but maybe a week later, but she will often change her mind), and I'm often surprised by what she chooses to eat among options (the girl sometimes only wants greens, I kid you not, but I'll saute them in olive oil and garlic and she chooses over mac and cheese. My sense is that the most important thing is to give lots of options and not get too worried about it -- if she's in the 10 percentile, she's almost certainly fine heath-wise -- and to do as many things as possible to make sure she has a healthy relationship to a variety of types of food . . .
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 10:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]we were the same - dd started out over 50% now like 5% or less. Ped was never concerned so I wasn't either. Full fat everything.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 10:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
please see a doctor...sounds like a problem. if your current pediatrician is not concerned find another, and another, etc...until someone has some way to help you.
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 05:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yeah, keep switching doctors until you can find someone who tells you it's a problem. Come on, people. We've btdt and all is well!
[ Reply | Options ]10.18.09, 05:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] favor for 2 year old b day party: a indivually wrapped (in cellophane with rafia) mi... 25 replies
- cute to me -- I just know a lot of neurotic food issue parents...
- to sugar, but you have no idea what other kids food allergies are. And 2 year olds can't identify what may/may not have eggs, gluten, milk, etc. You...m sure most kids eat cookies - if your kid has allergies you eat it instead. You are such a stick in the...- you do not have to worry about everyone's allergies when you buy things for your party. Sorry - you'...
Talk : : October 14, 2009
favor for 2 year old b day party: a indivually wrapped (in cellophane with rafia) mini black and white cookie from william greenberg, one per child. You can custom order the colors. Thoughts? I just cannot bring myself to give another bag of crap...
25 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.14.09, 12:39 PM [ Flag ]it depends on how many kids. i see you get a dozen for $45. if you're having 24 kids, that's wayyyy too much money. if you're having 12 kids, fine.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]don't give a big cookie as the party favor to 2yos. too much sugar.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]it's a bday party!! lighten up.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm very relaxed about sugar, but I don't think 2yos have any appreciation for a cookie like that and there's no way they could eat it all. I remember having a candy-filled pinata at my dd's 2yo party and when the candy dropped, the kids looked really baffled... what they really wanted was goldfish and veggie booty.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Actually, I will have some family there too and some of the two year olds older siblings so I also need a favor that is universal that everyone will enjoy.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]then the parents will eat it. yum.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]You had some really strange kids at that party then. The 2yos that came to our party gobbled it all up right then and there.
[ Reply | Options ]10.15.09, 07:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
?? mini black and white cookies aren't that big
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
sounds pretty pretentious and the expense is wasted on a 2 year old. Give something else -- mini play dough, paperback book, bubbles.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I can get 18 minis. They are just so good :) will have about 18 kids.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^18 minis for $21, dont think its pretentious at all.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Oh, no, I agree--I think 18 minis for $21 is totally fine. I do think the wrapping will be wasted on a 2 y/o though.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]wrapping is not a big deal have supplies left over from last party and will do it myself with gloves on, of course :)
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
sounds great
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 12:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]how about a little golden book or something?
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 01:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]The fact that you're having a huge party for a 2-year-old is insane enough ...
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 02:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]not a huge party close friends and family at my house for lunch and cake and would like to add a favor for each child...wtf?
[ Reply | Options ]10.15.09, 07:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I just did another post like this. We are giving books. I am just trying to fine-tune the plan, as we have a lot of siblings attending, and don't want to send the kids from the same family home with the same book.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 05:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]$45 per dozen? Why not just make some cookies? For the "name"? And who cares? What a waste.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 06:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]hot and crusty 63/2 will do same - $2 a cookie 0 custom colors and write things on them too
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 09:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
some people think cookies are "crap" but sounds cute to me -- I just know a lot of neurotic food issue parents
[ Reply | Options ]10.15.09, 06:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]That is by far the stupidest favor idea I have ever heard of. It's not a party for adults, its for children! I'm the most laid back when it comes to sugar, but you have no idea what other kids food allergies are. And 2 year olds can't identify what may/may not have eggs, gluten, milk, etc. You can do tons of favors that aren't "bags of crap," (which, if your kid is only turning 2, you can't really say you can't bring yourself to give another bag of crap...how many parties has he/she had??) What about personalized favors for each child? www.outrageouspartyfavors.com or www.mybambino.com. Much more cost-efficient, reusable, and allergy-friendly.
[ Reply | Options ]10.15.09, 11:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]you people are insane!!! the cookies are too expensive/have too much sugar/are too pretentious/have too many allergens... I really hope most of these posts were a joke or an attempt to be a real pita.
[ Reply | Options ]10.15.09, 12:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]allergens - I'm sure most kids eat cookies - if your kid has allergies you eat it instead. You are such a stick in the mud
[ Reply | Options ]10.15.09, 12:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
OMG get a grip - you do not have to worry about everyone's allergies when you buy things for your party. Sorry - you'll end up with a vegan cake. This is just silly . It's just a cookie. We've gotten huge lollies as favors. They are great. Don't give it to your kid if you don't want to. No way I'm worrying about allergens when planning a party - let the parent's of the allergic child do it. This is just like not peanut butter and jelly anymore.
[ Reply | Options ]10.15.09, 12:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Interesting take on peanut butter and wheat Moms: "The present obsession with nut all... 18 replies
- prove that everything (obesity, back pain, sex practices, politics) is contagious. bully for them. i'm sure claiming deadly food allergies are all in our heads and our social networks will sell tons of books....
- I was pretty laissez-faire with the dirt and cleaning. Drop your food on the ground? Brush it off and eat it, no prob...
- you didn't cause his allergy - he had it....
Talk : : October 13, 2009
Interesting take on peanut butter and wheat Moms: "The present obsession with nut allergies in the US may very well be a case of mass psychogenic illness (MPI)", state Christakis and Fowler in their new book "Connected".
18 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.13.09, 01:50 PM [ Flag ]Until the allergist's scratch test results in huge red itchy welt and provento be in bloodstream too. Mass psych that.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 02:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]99% of those kids have psycho Moms. Seriously.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 02:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you a$$hole my child almost died twice when she was 1 years old and 3 years old, because of people like you - f&^ck you bitch
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Drama queen.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i like you.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I guess my immunologist must not be reading the results of the blood test & skin test correctly?
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]One school of thought is that it has more to do with children's lack of exposure to normal micro-organisms in soil. Immune systems aren't getting "calibrated" and respond inappropriately. There are so many auto-immune diseases also.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]that is why i let my kids eat dirt. Or at least be dirty outside. I think there is something to this theory - the theory that kids today are sheltered by cleanliness by well meaning parents but they don't get exposed to a wide range of elements that set the stage to help their body interpret what is harmful and what is not.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]well... I was pretty laissez-faire with the dirt and cleaning. Drop your food on the ground? Brush it off and eat it, no prob! Then my ds developed asthma... turns out to be allergic to dustmites and the common cold virus. We now are clean freaks, wash the home and hands like mad. So don't make the judgement that clean, paranoid parents are the cause of autoimmune diseases-- it might be the other way around!
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 06:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you didn't cause his allergy - he had it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 06:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]The theory refers to real soil, like in a garden.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 02:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Yes - my one year old must have been copying her peers when I had to rush her to the ER because she couldn't breathe!!!
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Don't pay any attention, it's just that crazy peanut butter mom.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
my two year old is such a FAKER!
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]christakis and fowler seem to have an agenda, which is to prove that everything (obesity, back pain, sex practices, politics) is contagious. bully for them. i'm sure claiming deadly food allergies are all in our heads and our social networks will sell tons of books.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]wait, it's in a book? by authors? On paper? Then, it must be right. Thanks!!
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i got this in an email: student walked into college library and saw an encyclopedia on the shelf. asked librarian what it was and when was told it was an encyclopedia, said "someone printed it out?!?!?!?!"
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 06:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I have a friend who has an autoimmune disease and her kids have life threatening nut allergy. It is real.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 06:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Interesting take on peanut butter and wheat Moms: "The present obsession with nut all... 32 replies
- i do think there is an increase in real life-threatening food allergies since i was a dc....
- not with a life-threatening allergy, no....
- career is based on increasing business by fueling the allergy hysteria....
- 's original point, which was whether the response to allergies is warranted....
Talk : : October 13, 2009
Interesting take on peanut butter and wheat Moms: "The present obsession with nut allergies in the US may very well be a case of mass psychogenic illness (MPI)", state Christakis and Fowler in their new book "Connected". Approx 3.3 million Americans are allergic to nuts, 6.9 to seafood. However, serious allergic reactions to foods cause just 2000 hospitalizations per year. 150 people die each year from food allergies, 100 from lightening strikes. The question is not whether nut allergies exist, or whether they can occasionally be serious ... the question is, what accounts for society's extreme response to nut allergies? Anxiety spreads from person to person to person, and a sense of proportion and the ability to be reassured are lost.
32 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.13.09, 01:44 PM [ Flag ]Thats interesting. I can usually take one look at a dc's parents and tell you if their DC's will have some sort of allergy or special problem. We just formed a play group and I met all the parents and thought to myself "this one's kid is going to have issues" sure enough; vegan, allergic to wheat, dairy, and sugar. Sugar!! how the F can you be allergic to sugar? Granted, I don't let my kid eat the stuff if I can help it but call it an allergy?
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 01:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]that's because 99% of these kids have total whack jobs for mothers. Proven entity. Nut/wheat/blah blah blah allergy = wacko mama.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 02:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]tee hee.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 02:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]what do you eat if you are allergic to all those foods? rice? fruits and vegetables all have sugar in them
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 02:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i hear ya. hopefully their kids don't have an allergy to anti-anxiety pills because they'll need them by 10yo.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 02:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITTTA. Generally it's the granny-moms, too.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]nah I'm one and most them I know are really laid back
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
i'm not sure i buy this. sure, some people are faking it, but hyper-vigilant parents who make sure dc stays miles away from allergens and always has an epi pen could account for the low hospitalization and death rates. i do think there is an increase in real life-threatening food allergies since i was a dc.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 03:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Did you know one child---one---with food allergies growing up? I didn't.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I knew many. Grew up in the 80s-90s.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^shellfish, peanuts, mango (not life threatening, this one) were the more common ones.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I knew a kid allergic to strawberries. My sister can't eat shellfish. I didn't know anyone with asthma, but we were in the country.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]not with a life-threatening allergy, no.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
ITD. The only "increase" is in the hysteria.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]talk to an allergist. i'm sure she'll disagree.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Hmm. Talk to an "allergist", whose very career is based on increasing business by fueling the allergy hysteria.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]omg, you are that rabid anti-vaccine mom, aren't you?
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm not rabid, and I'm not a mom, but I am against the flu "vaccine".
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]do "you" always "overuse" quotation "marks"?
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]No. Only when I'm discussing something that alleges it's something else, like a "vaccine".
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
here's my take on it. my dd is allergic to nuts and sesame. i try not to overblow the issue but it's very scary from my perspective, especially when it's a young child. she can tell me "my mouth hurts" but i don't know if it's tingling or itching or swelling. i can't tell how serious the reaction is unless it's really serious. i can't tell how fast it's progressing other than asking every three seconds "is it better? is it worse?" and hoping a 4yo child can accurately describe the sensation. i can't tell you how scary it is to watch your child drooling b/c she can't swallow and waiting with your hand on the phone to call 911 in case she's going to turn blue. and you're thinking "are her lips blue? is she breathing?" and tears are running down her cheeks and you're thinking "she's not screaming. is that b/c it's better or because she can't breathe?". it's really terrifying. adn then you send you little kid to school where kids share food and touch things adn touch shared utensils and it's just a very scary issue. as kids get older i think it's less scary b/c the kids themselves can manage the allergies better. they know when they are getting a reaction and if they have to leave the room or go wash up or get some benadryl or whatever it is that will help. i think that's why you see they over-the-top enforcement in schools but i don't think you'll ever see it in restaurants or businesses. so to summarize: i somewhat agree it's an "extreme response" but i think it's warranted to protect a very vulnerable and pretty much helpless group.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^running down her cheeks and you are thinking "she's not screaming. is that b/c it's better or because she can't breathe?". it's really terrifying. adn then you send you little kid to school where kids share food and touch things adn touch shared utensils and it's just a very scary issue. as kids get older i think it's less scary b/c the kids themselves can manage the allergies better. they know when they are getting a reaction and if they have to leave the room or go wash up or get some benadryl or whatever it is that will help. i think that's why you see they over-the-top enforcement in schools but i don't think you'll ever see it in restaurants or businesses. so to summarize: i somewhat agree it's an "extreme response" but i think it's warranted to protect a very vulnerable and pretty much helpless group.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]sigh. last time trying.... i agree it seems like an "extreme response" but i think it's warranted to protect a very vulnerable and pretty much helpless group.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]If they're that vulnerable, they should be home-schooled and isolated from the general public.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]please, please, please try to get this movement started? I'd like to see you on the news.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 04:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]what's "that vulnerable"? i don't think you can get most posters here to agree on that, let alone most school policy makers. also an interesting question on which is better for the public school system - to treat allergies as a disability and provide special schooling or to make the current schools accomodate by limiting certain foods. and i would also like to point out that your response isn't really relevant to the op's original point, which was whether the response to allergies is warranted.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^or relevant to the OR's point either. not sure what your point was.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:02 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]My point is that if a kid is SO allergic to a food as common as nuts that just breathing in the aroma can allegedly cause death, then that kid shouldn't be allowed out in public, period. In fact, it's irresponsible on the part of the parents to risk the kid's life by exposing him to such a potential toxin.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]so you are saying that the "extreme response" is warranted?
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]No, it's not warranted at all. Because contrary to what the hysterics are saying, no one is really THAT allergic to peanut vapors.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
she's not allergic to vapors. she is allergic to nuts. i haven't noticed any airborne effects. i'm not sure about touching, just b/c i don't think she's ever touched a nut that she hasn't eaten. but i don't think that's the point here. the op is quoting someone who is basically saying that allergies aren't as dangerous as people think and therefore we are over-reacting. and i'm saying that we may be reacting strongly but it's b/c there's a lack of communication between us and our children and we need to compensate for that. i don't think whether or not i should homeschool my child minimizes my point.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^and if i came on here and said "i'm homeschooling my child b/c she has an allergy to foods that the school can't accommodate, you'd be one of the first people here throwing stones about how i was overreacting.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 05:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Just read peanut butter post. So do all the kids with peanut allergies go to private?... 14 replies
- at my dd's public, she tells me that at lunch, kids with peanut allergy sit at the end of the table. pb&j offered everyday at lunch....
- food allergies are turning into a bigger problem than anyone would've thought....
Talk : : October 13, 2009
Just read peanut butter post. So do all the kids with peanut allergies go to private? At our public (and all NYC publics) they serve PB & J everyday. Seriously what do publics do with the peanut allergy kids? If you are severely allergic to you go to a special needs school?
14 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.13.09, 12:33 PM [ Flag ]you sound like an idiot. a lot of publics are nut free.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np: name a nut free public in NYC
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]PS110
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
apparently this isn't the case
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Of course there are nut allegy kids in NYC publics and yes, they still serve pb&j, but each nut kid has a para assigned one-on-one to make sure they're safe. Eventually this will have to change as the cost of it must be insane. But that's how it works now.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]food allergies are turning into a bigger problem than anyone would've thought.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]this does NOT happen in our school. op must be in some rarefied public.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]199 assigns paras to DCs with allergies. It's a great way for them to go around the budget and get extra resources for the whole class.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:56 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
huh? no they don't.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
yup. PB&J is a daily lunch menu item.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]at my dd's public, she tells me that at lunch, kids with peanut allergy sit at the end of the table. pb&j offered everyday at lunch.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]they can't deny pb&j to over a million kids.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]at most publics, there is a nut-free table for each grade.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^in the lunchroom, i mean.
[ Reply | Options ]10.13.09, 12:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] Suggestions for a casual dinner party with a picky eater? We are having another coupl... 25 replies
- Is she picky, or does she have some kind of allergies? I think it is kind of rude if she is just...
- Yeah, this is prob allergies (the nuts are a red flag). In which case I feel for her - it sucks to have multiple food allergies. If she is just picky that feels a bit over...
- wow! all that wholesome food and still so rotten inside...
Talk : : October 12, 2009
Suggestions for a casual dinner party with a picky eater? We are having another couple over for dinner and she doesn't eat dairy, red meat or nuts. Any ideas as to what I can cook for them? In the past when they have come over, I have made fajitas (make your own) and an italian themed meal with pasta and no cheese.
25 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.12.09, 12:34 PM [ Flag ]Seafood - shrimp or salmon?
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 12:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]rice and beans. roast a chicken on the side for your family. have vegetables.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 12:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]roasted chicken w/ rosemary potatoes and carmelized root veg...plus a nice mixed green salad..serve w/a nice white
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 06:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]yum, I would go with that.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 06:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]NP ditto, yummy!
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
no butter on the potatoes or chicken if she doesnt do dairy!
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you can do EVOO to avoid the dairy...it is very good.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Portabellos stuffed with diced sauteed veggies and quinoa, salad and roast chicken
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Is she picky, or does she have some kind of allergies? I think it is kind of rude if she is just THAT picky and expects her hosts to cater to her!
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^you are a nice host, though!
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 06:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yeah, this is prob allergies (the nuts are a red flag). In which case I feel for her - it sucks to have multiple food allergies. If she is just picky that feels a bit over the top.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
a salad, maybe arugula mix/spring mix with olive oil/vinegar dressing, baked salmon with couscous, and coffee/fruit for dessert
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]restaurant
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]chicken cutlets. best thing for picky eaters, imo. you can make a nice looking (and tasting) wild rice side dish. and a salad.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]yuck... I am picky and I hate chicken!
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Organic whole wheat pasta with a touch of olive oil and seasoning with black beans. Steamed broccoli on the side. Baked pears for dessert.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i'd be eating when I left...sorry, but yuck.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]So eat when you leave, ungrateful bitch.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]wow! all that wholesome food and still so rotten inside...hungry chicks are mean.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]oh, and moron, all your guests would have gas...nice.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np Please. This is a meal I could make in 10 mins on a weeknight--which I'd only do because it's healthy. Sounds unappetizing.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Eggplant based ratatouille! or Stuffer sweet red peppers - I stuff with squash,eggplant,hot peppers,tomatoe sauce, garlic shallots and orzo!
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 07:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]your dinner guest sound like they do pilates during their lunch breaks. many skinny beeyotches i know dig collared greens (streamed of course), beets, edamame and lots of alcohol
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 09:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]stay simple. chicken or fish, with a big mixed salad and maybe potatoes or rice or couscous on the side or even another vegetable dish.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 09:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Rosemary&portobello mushroom risotto. Use veg broth, hold the parm (serve that in a dish on the table). Serve it alongside pan-broiled skate, monkfish or thin,pan-seared tuna medallions, as a delicious complementary protein. Curried vegetable w/chick peas is always a tasty, satisfying choice for most people.
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 09:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] ds just diagnosed with severe food allergies. need to take away EVERYTHING that he cu... 6 replies
- get a second opinion first. Some of these allergy tests seem way overboard. But don't panic--in...he grew out of the wheat and soy allergy and they are hopeful about dairy and eggs...
- whole foods sells soooo many wheat free things. also some...everything (animals, grass, dust, seventy five types of food, etc). we had a dog. we kept...a veterinarian. i'm telling you this because allergies are surmountable with time. take it away. add...
Talk : : October 08, 2009
ds just diagnosed with severe food allergies. need to take away EVERYTHING that he currently eats. no milk, eggs, wheat, soy effective immediately. anyone have any btdt suggestions? i am panicking!
6 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.08.09, 01:49 PM [ Flag ]I'd get a second opinion first. Some of these allergy tests seem way overboard. But don't panic--in any case there seems to be a lot of people in similar circs.--I'm sure you'll find support.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 02:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]a good friend's son was similarly diagnosed. It's been hard but at 3 he grew out of the wheat and soy allergy and they are hopeful about dairy and eggs in the next year or so. Does he eat meat and veggies? There are wheat-free pastas and special crackers/cookies, etc. Find some support and hang in there...
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 03:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]there's a website by a local mom who has btdt called whattofeedyourkids.com I think she has good recipes and advice.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 03:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]whole foods sells soooo many wheat free things. also some good gluten free restaurants in the city, but no milk/soy complicates that. rice and veggies makes a nice meal. Good luck....you can do it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 05:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]lots of gluten-free stuff on the market -- breads, muffin mix, flour, rice cereal, pancake mix, etc. etc. Lots of rice, quinua (sp), risotteria in the west village has some products in addition to its restaurant.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 05:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]my little sister was diagnosed allergic to almost everything (animals, grass, dust, seventy five types of food, etc). we had a dog. we kept it. she never had to mow the lawn. she's now a veterinarian. i'm telling you this because allergies are surmountable with time. take it away. add stuff back slowly. and he'll be ok.
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 02:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] How does peanut butter create an airborn allergen? (riddle me this, batman) 32 replies
- that could happen with any allergy, right? So the mother of OR above could have a...Unless all of society is peanut free those with sever allergies can't be in public without medical care nearby....in my ds' daycare center just had a very serious allergy attack sitting next to a child eating peanut butter. it...
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Talk : : October 08, 2009
How does peanut butter create an airborn allergen? (riddle me this, batman)
32 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.08.09, 12:17 PM [ Flag ]It doesn't. And even if it did, no one ever died from peanut dust floating in the air.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Wait, not being a jerk, are you sure? then why are they so crazy about not even having peanuts in the schools?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP here, and i understand the peanuts part, just not peanut BUTTER
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OK.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
It's only private schools, and the schools are merely reacting to the hysterical, over-entitled donor/parents.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]not true....taught in a public school where 5 yo had extremely INTENSE allergy to peanuts, pb could not be eaten in the same room.
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 07:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/05/18/peanut.allergies/index.html
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]So what does this prove? The chicken was cooked in peanut oil. Where is the mention of airborn allergens?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]BS. This "article" proves nothing. And CNN is hardly a reliable news source (I've worked there).
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
My friend's son had to leave a Yankees game in an ambulance because of the peanuts being sold there.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]That's awful. But it kind of illustrates the point that making schools peanut free is not the answer. Unless all of society is peanut free those with sever allergies can't be in public without medical care nearby. People could have peanuts on buses and subways, in parks, on the sidewalk, etc.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]It was all in his head. http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/02/food-fears-run-amuck-government-outlaws.html
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]oh please. why can't you accept the fact that this is fatal for some kids? Should he live in a bubble? Maybe. But he has managed a life in a CT public schools for 9+ years, being careful. I'm not saying, nor are his parents, that everyone should adapt to his problems. But peanut allergies are on the rise, so who is not to say that this couldn't be your child? And then what would you do to keep your child alive?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 09:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
actually, a child in my ds' daycare center just had a very serious allergy attack sitting next to a child eating peanut butter. it was nearly fatal.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 05:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Bullshit.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I'm not sure what you mean, but my mother will go into anaflactic (sp) shock is someone is cooking shellfish near her, so I would guess the peanut thing is the same -- small particles go into the air, the person breathes it, they have a severe reaction.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]what i mean (and just asking) is that the oils seem to act as a binder, and there's no cooking going on. just wondering
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]I can buy that particles go with the steam into the air. Not the same with a peanut butter sandwich.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
not airborn, but I could see if a kid ate PB for lunch and then opened a door and another kid with allergies touched that door, it could be a problem.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]But that could happen with any allergy, right? So the mother of OR above could have a reaction if someone had had shellfish. Should we ban all allergens in schools and/or in public places?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
There was some woman who claimed the peanuts served on a plane caused her son to have an allergic reaction. Turns out it was a hoax/scam to get settlement money. She blamed the peanut dust was the culprit.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]again, (OP here) i get the dust. but peanut butter is uniformly gooey. just don't see that airborne is an issue.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
You have serious issues. How many times have you posted on this subject in such a cartoonish fashion? Detach from the computer and get a life.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]answer, never. you have a different poster in mind. that said, no one can answer my question.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]The reason you haven't gotten an answer is because you're a totally transparent troll. If you were really curious as to the answer for your asinine question, you could get it from Google in two seconds flat.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]wtfe. sounds like you don't know the answer either.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
anti-Peanut nazi is on the rampage. She is the board monitor of all peanut posts.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:59 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 10:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
it is not that the paenut is "floating in the air" it is that some kids are so allergic they have a reaction if they simply toch a surface that peanut has touched. So someone eats a peanut butter sandwich, some residue is on the table or the kids hands, the allergic kid touches it and gets a reaction.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Can you smell peanut butter? That's because peanut butter particles (to use the technical term) float out of the PB and into the air (remember "vapor pressure" from high school chem?). If they are floating in the air at a concentration that you can smell them, then there is enough in the air to cause a reaction from someone so inclined.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]She caught the vapors!!!! ~oops. forgot what board I was on. no more Biz Markie quotes~
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Haha. I appreciated it.
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 07:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
[+] So mad I could spit nails! A teacher at DS' school confiscated his lunch (peanut but... 186 replies
- 'll bite anyway: I know adults with severe nut allergies whose workplaces have asked their colleagues not to bring...(the company, the employees, and the person with the allergies). It...
- the adult was incapable of staying away from the foods containing peanuts? I say, remove yourself from the gene...to bring peanut butter sandwiches into school because of allergies?????? That's absurd....
Talk : : October 08, 2009
So mad I could spit nails! A teacher at DS' school confiscated his lunch (peanut butter and jelly sandwich), told him he was breaking the rules, and made him sit without eating lunch. He started crying, and the school called me. By the time I got to the school, DS was in the principal's office, sobbing. I yelled at the principal. All the teacher got was a suspension. She should be fired! Principal assured me it would never happen again. I should certainly hope not!
186 replies [ Reply | Watch | Options ]10.08.09, 11:25 AM [ Flag ]stuff happens. why didn't she just get him a school lunch?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Who knows. Some of these teachers are absolute idiots.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]at dd's school the teachers aren't at lunch (lunch aides are). was it your son's teacher? (another suggestion is that she could have put him off to the corner to sit and eat - she sounds like an extremist)
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Why are you sending PB instead of almond butter, cashew butter, sunflower seed butter, etc. There are a million "nut" butters, why are you crazy about the PB?
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 04:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Cashew butter? At $18 per jar? Why not just send caviar and French truffles in his lunch box??
[ Reply | Options ]10.11.09, 12:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]LOL! ITA!
[ Reply | Options ]10.12.09, 10:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]go to Trader Joe's you morons. $3.99. Use the extra penny to save for your child's therapy sessions.
[ Reply | Options ]10.21.09, 08:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np Usually nuts are banned when pb is banned. Fwiw, I feed my kids cashew butter. A jar lasts a good few weeks. Probably cheaper than feeding them Lunchables or other crap.
[ Reply | Options ]10.16.09, 11:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Do they have a "no peanut" policy at the school? I know my DS's school would have confiscated too, but would have given him an alternative lunch in it's place and just sent home a note reprimanding me for sending the p&j in the first place.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes, the school has a "no peanut" policy at the school. We were exempted from the rule, after I complained earlier.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]you, AGAIN. enough with your stories about why your special child needs his PB&J.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]i know who you are and i think you're despicable, and i'm not alone...
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 07:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Why do you think you need to send your kid to school with a potentially fatal allergen? That's pretty self-centered. Still, the teacher's overreaction was unwarranted (but she doesn't deserve to be fired). You're totally trolling, aren't you?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np. If something as common as peanuts is a "potentially fatal allergen" for a child, the child shouldn't be allowed out of the house in the first place, and should be home-schooled.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]She's B A A A C K - crazy peanut zealot mom.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]lol! great moniker!
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[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 10:33 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
You are trolling. I'll bite anyway: I know adults with severe nut allergies whose workplaces have asked their colleagues not to bring products containing nuts into the workplace. People complied and everyone is better off (the company, the employees, and the person with the allergies). It
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]How would a company and its employees be "better off" in the absence of peanuts?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]LOLOL! I know, right?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:43 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
What??? Because the adult was incapable of staying away from the foods containing peanuts? I say, remove yourself from the gene pool if that's the case.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Agreed! It's ludicrous.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
ITA
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITD. Tyranny of the minority, and the latest research shows the "airborne" peanut allergy to be total bunk.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ITTTA!
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I agree. This really isn't about the teacher overreacting. She's just looking to attack kids with peanut allergies.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
LOL. You sound like a major league asshole. "exempted from the rule"--like your particular pb couldn't hurt a kid with an allergy (my kids LOVE pb, but the way).
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP. Unless the allegedly allergic kid stole and ate my DS' lunch, the peanut butter couldn't possibly harm him.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Sigh. PB could easily get on your kid's hands. He could touch something. Allergic kid could touch the same thing. This isn't rocket science, jerk.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Again, if a kid is truly THAT allergic he shouldn't be allowed out of the house. What if Joe Schmo had a peanut butter bagel outside the school, then "touched" the outside of the door, which the allergic kid then "touched" after school? Should Mayor Bloomberg then ban peanut products city-wide? Where does it end for these high-maintenance drama queens?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]He probably will as soon as he's done with the bake sales.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
How about enforcing hand washing after eating lunch. Seems to me that's a much more logical solution. Plus you're limiting the spread of germs as well!
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[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 10:33 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
My seven year old asked me not to give him PB & J because a classmate has an allergy, and he wanted to be considerate...SEVEN YEAR OLD
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 04:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]What a sweetie! You should be so proud :-)
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 06:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np: i have a lot of sympathy for moms whose kids have bad allergies. that said. my kid has eaten PB&J sitting next to his allergic best friend for years now without incident. why? because he knows to wash his hands and be a bit careful. I agree this won't work in preschool but beyond that, it can.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
This is worth you complaining about? Get a life.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Is this in NYC? public or private?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Private.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]^^^NYC.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]np What private in nyc doesn't provide lunch?! I pay 35k a year, and my kid is served lunch daily.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]ditto. The peanut lady sends peanuts just to be an ass.
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 09:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
How old is your DS?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]7 years old.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Wow! And she was going to make him go without a lunch? What a witch. Is she a good teacher otherwise?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I have no idea. Never heard of her before. She can't be that good if she starves children.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]You mean this teacher wasn't even dc's teacher?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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so the teacher was suspended for enforcing a school rule. You are nuts. Poor teacher.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]LOL to the "you are nuts" good pun
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
what a sense of entitlement you have! between getting an exeption for your kid to eat peanut butter and thinking a teacher should be fired over this...
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I agree with OP. I think the teacher is a borderline sadist. At the very least, she's a control freak. And I'm glad she got the peanut exception. It is LUDICROUS to ban peanuts for an entire school! Should we also ban milk for the lactose intolerant???
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]hey, my dd's school doesn't have a peanut ban in her school, but I see the point. and no lactose intolerant person ever died from being exposed to milk.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]And no one allergic to peanuts ever died from being in a room with peanuts.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]actually a girl in my daughter's school was rushed to the hospital-peanut allergies is an airbourne allergy! My friend is allergic to peanuts and had an attack when someone OPENED a peanut butter sandwich in her office. So yes- peo[ple have become extremely sick and come close to death.
[ Reply | Options ]10.11.09, 12:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
And no kid allergic to peanuts ever died being exposed to peanuts.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]uh--yeah, they have. duh!
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Proof please.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
ITA - Off to the looney bin for you
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Why would an entire school have a no peanut policy? WTF????
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Most schools have this rule do the prevelance and seriousness of peanut allergies.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]It's ridiculous. My dd's public school has a no-peanut policy in classrooms with a kid who is allergic but they can eat peanuts in the cafeteria. In fact, they serve PB&J as an alternate to the hot lunch. If they didn't have this alternative, my dd would go hungry a couple of times a week.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:38 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Actually, "most" schools don't. "Most" schools are public, and public schools not only allow peanuts and peanut products, but they put peanut butter and jelly sandwiches on the menu as an "alternative" lunch.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:39 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]True.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
welcome to private school.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]my school is peanut free-- no complaints from anyone--and yes we are private ; )
[ Reply | Options ]10.11.09, 12:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
The teacher made a mistake and you sound hysterical. You DC, while visibly upset, will live.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Last year at our school, there was a kid with a severe egg allergy and a note was sent home that we were not to pack anything with egg in our kids lunch. They sent a big comprehensive list of alternatives, "if your kid likes this...try this instead...". It was ridiculous - it ruled out so much stuff! Parents were pissed but I think everyone TRIED to comply , for about a week! Then discussions were had and we were told to just not send eggs or egg salad or stuff like that. No one gives a damn about the "no peanut" policy! That's so easy, why is that such a big deal to you?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Why was the no-egg policy a big deal to you?? I think all banned food policies are stupid. If you are so allergic to a food, then stay away from it, keep your kid away from it and carry an epi pen at all times.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]No, I mean a serious no egg policy! Nothing with egg in it AT ALL! No breads, no pastas, no chicken nuggets, no crackers. Nothing with egg in it at all or processed on a machine that also processes egg! And everyone even tried to comply with it! So to me, not complying with a "no peanut" request is ridiculous!
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]NP Here -- kid w/an egg allergy and this sounds super extreme to me, and my dd is very allergic to eggs. I don't love having her next to say, egg salad but no way do I worry about "made on a machine next to eggs" types of warnings. I am surprised about this, frankly -- I wonder if there was some confusion btwn the parent and the allergist?
[ Reply | Options ]10.15.09, 07:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
OP. Frankly, because it's a cheap and healthy protein that my DS likes to eat.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]My ds is only 2, but don't give peanut butter at all because we don't consider it nutritious at all. We serve him almond, macadamia nut, and cashew butter at home. When we go out to have lunch in a public place, like a park, Ill pack soynut butter or sunflower seed butter. ALL of these are healthier than peanut butter, and the latter have no known allergy concerns that I am aware of. I am allergic to nuts, and I prepare these sandwiches and have had no problems. I also carry an epi-pen for myself. The only person I request doesn't eat peanuts around me is dh. ;)
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 04:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]you're a nut too
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 07:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Nutritionist dad. You're full of crap.
[ Reply | Options ]10.10.09, 12:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]No I'm not. DS's pediatrician said other nut butters are fine, but we should definitely hold off on PB until at least 3-4 years. He's currently 2. Peanuts are from a different family, and pediatrician really really does not like PB. My personal nutritionist doesn't allow PB either. It also isn't good to eat TOO much PB. Your kids probably won't die from PB (unless they're allergic), but people should be aware that there are much butter alternatives. We are also the type of people that don't use a lot of bread. So we'll serve almond butter on a pear/apple/banana, etc and maybe even throw some granola on it. My ds eats a very very healthy diet, and I view it as a gift that I have given him to establish such healthy eating habits. I just dread the day he goes to school and sees other kids eating oreos and chicken fingers.
[ Reply | Options ]10.11.09, 06:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]whatever you eat like a freak. Who asks their pediatrician about whether they like peanut butter or not? My ped never mentioned it nor told me what to feed my kid or I would have left.
[ Reply | Options ]10.11.09, 06:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
OMG, that is INSANE!
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 04:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Okay the representative for Planter's peanut is back. Withholding food should never be used as a punishment so the teacher was in the wrong there. 1 day's suspension without pay is sufficient reprimand. The school should refund you your money and kick your DC and your crazy ass to the curb. No tuition is worth dealing with this whack job for the next 6 to 8 to 12 years.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:42 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]OP. We provide more than just tuition to the school.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]You're still not worth the money. You're post regarding peanut allergies are very nasty and so over-the-top and imagine your in-person behavior is probably worse.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Apparently the school disagrees with you.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Yup, tuition and a whole lot of crazy. I'm sure they want you gone!
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]That made juice come out my nose. LOL!!!!!
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np. Our school has a similar no-nut policy, but I haven't made a big deal of it. I just quietly send DS and DD to school with their PB&J sandwiches, and instruct them never to share their lunches. Children will not die because my DCs are eating peanut butter in the same room them, my DCs enjoy their PB&J, and life goes on.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]Aren't you worried, OP, about how this teacher will treat your DS in class? I would be upset, but certainly watch my behavior so my child isn't mistreated or even disliked, by the teachers.. what are your thoughts?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think this teacher is now on Big Donor Mom's shit list, and if anything she'll watch her step around her kid from now on.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I'm interested to hear from OP. Even if teacher acts sticky-sweet with the child, kids can feel it when they aren't loved, or liked, for that matter. And even the best teacher will struggle pretending in this case.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
our school's "no peanut" policy amounts to: Please don't share your food, and if you have pbandj please sit apart from the rest of the children. i can't for the life of me understand how an oily substance like peanut butter can result in airborne peanut dust, but am happy to keep the lunacy alive (send dd with regular food to school anyway, so it isn't an issue)
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]I think the anti-Peanut Nazis and the pro-Peanut Czars should have a jello wrestling match. Both you people are, yeah, I'll say it. NUTS!
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 11:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]tee hee
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
$ can't buy you class
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]big donor mom should definitely worry about liability if some kid gets sick b/c her DS just had to eat a PB&J. This sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen...
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Lawyer mom here. You'd never have a case. PB&J sandwiches aren't illegal.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]lawyer here: obviously, the poster wouldn't be suing over whether pb&j is illegal. she'd be suing over whether the school showed negligence. think out of the box a little.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]np Lawyer Mom. I doubt the school would be shown to be "negligent
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:18 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Not a lawyer, but wouldn't the mom be responsible? The school already made the no peanut policy, so not negligent. Though giving an exemption could be considered. Just wondering - really!
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]How could the mom possibly be responsible?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 04:14 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]b/c the mom sent her kid in with the PB&J despite the no peanut rule, so if another kid got sick, couldn't she be held accountable? Just asking.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]It's a school policy, not a law.
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 08:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
depends on the facts
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
this is selfish and you're not doing your dc any favors by not teaching him the importance of teamwork and greater good values. he can eat it on the weekends. but getting a waiver, yadda yadda, to prove a point seems a crazy principle on which to stand when there are kids who can die from a lunch innocently shared among friends. it's selfish. and you're clearly standing on principle alone since i highly doubt that the difference between your ability to afford and not afford is contingent on a pb&j lunch. sorry, but you just sound selfish and entitled, and are most assuredly not doing your kid any favors.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Get a grip, Drama Queen Mom. No child has ever *died* from sitting next to a kid eating peanut butter.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]i think you're the one who needs to get a grip, Illiterate Mom. I didn't say anything about sitting next to a kid eating pb. re-read my post. i said that kids innocently sharing food can lead to death where there's an allergy. just not worth it to stand on some dubious principle, imo.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]So the allergy kid is told not to "share" food. Problem solved.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]the issue is whether an accidental sharing could occur. of course it could with kids that age who don't have a real conception of death. is it worth it? not in my opinion. guess it is to you.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Thank you!
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 07:00 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]OMG: You are retarded
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
np:I think the teacher was wrong to confiscate the child's lunch with no alternative, BUT getting her fired is a bit extreme too. Why does everything have to be taken to such ridiculous levels on both sides? Is it NYC that crazy, or just the people who frequent UB?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 12:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Oh, dear. Was his "I'm Super Special" t-shirt in the wash?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Where do I get a t-shirt like that?
[ Reply | Options ]10.21.09, 08:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
oh my gosh. you need to stop harping on the peanut thing. as you can see, or should be able to, your crazy peanut zealotry is making your son's life way harder than it needs to be.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:23 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Now see, if you could really spit nails, that would be worth posting about. The rest of the thread is silly.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 01:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Just laughed my ass off (and that, too, might be a worthy post, as it isn't that small).
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 07:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
A friend toured a UES private school and when informed that the school had a "strict no-nut zone" policy she asked,"you do mean people"?....and got in anyway
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 07:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]your poor kid shouldn't have had to endure the meanness of this teacher; what a bi***; she probably hates her job if she could be that cruel to a kid. i hate the message that it sends to your son about being punished for something he didn't do and i don't think she's fit to teach. i agree with you that she should be fired for her totally unnecessary cruelness.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]a bit over the top, don't you think?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]what concerns me if she'd treat this kid so cruel is what's going on in her head, like anger issues that she could be capable taking out on kids. who could leave a kid crying without a lunch?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:57 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Are you having fun, replying to yourself and defending yourself? You're pathetic.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 09:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]huh? did you miss a dose of your ritalin tonight, dear?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 09:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]No, it's you who should increase your Lithium, "dear".
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 09:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]what are you so angry about?
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 10:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA: ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? Kids aren't allowed to bring peanut butter sandwiches into school because of allergies?????? That's absurd.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 08:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]this had better be sarcastic, or you are classless and clueless--truly.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 09:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
wow, such drama. Poor kid to see adults behaving like utter idiots. Stick to rules, no nuts, no suspending teachers over silly mistakes, no yelling in front of kids. I have seen nut intolerant kids get sick just from breathing the smell of peanuts from someone who had eaten some. Give them a break, keep it at home. Not such a big deal really.
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 09:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Can it be? A voice of reason?? Thank you :)
[ Reply | Options ]10.08.09, 09:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]Yes, THANK YOU. Teacher screwed up by making it into the child's fault, but if there's a no-peanut rule, stop sending the damn PB sandwiches.
[ Reply | Options ]10.14.09, 10:45 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I totally agree. This mom is so crazy -- "special exemption" for her kid who MUST MUST MUST have peanut butter. OP way to teach your child that they have no ability to be flexible. You are oging to raise a total neurotic if you don't pull it together!
[ Reply | Options ]10.15.09, 07:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
This is so FAKE!!
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 06:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]nope--i heard about this. the mom's a piece of work...
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 08:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
Why don't you home school your SPECIAL child! Rules of this kind are in place to protect those who need it whether it's not having nut products at school or crossing the street when the lights tell you to. Learning about consideration and observance of such rules will be a good thing for your SPECIAL child, and the best person to learn that from is a parent. I'd hate to see how your SPECIAL child is going to turn out with this 'each man for himself' attitude you're instilling.
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 07:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]i heart you!
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 08:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
I haven't heard about this. DS is only 4mo. Was there an incident or study that led to schools making these policies? Are peanut allergies much more common now than 25 years ago?
[ Reply | Options ]10.09.09, 08:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]yes, it's much more common than 25 years ago, but no one knows why. there are many incidents that occur, and