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  • I am a single mom and I started dating this great guy, we've had 6 dates so far. Last night it was a date at his place where he made dinner. While there, he was showing me some photos etc. and it turns out that one of his close friends is the guy who date raped me 11 years ago. I didn't tell him anything, how do I? How do I bring this up?

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    05.21.08, 11:04 AM [ Flag ]
    • and... watch

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      05.21.08, 11:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Are you sure its him?

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      05.21.08, 11:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • just curious, was the guy ever convicted?

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      05.21.08, 11:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • No, the police said there wasn't enough influence. His father was a powerful figure where it happened (Omaha) and that helped him

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        05.21.08, 11:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • wow. is it really a close friend?

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      05.21.08, 11:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • They have known each otehr since college. The friend now lives in Seattle....I am in NY. He says he sees him every few months when the friend comes to NY on business.

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        05.21.08, 11:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • wow. i don't know what to say. i guess you can say it now, and it's not like youve been dating so long, or you can wait. i wouldn't want to be in a situation where the friend comes by for a visit a month later...

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          05.21.08, 11:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Well, I would wait until you feel the relationship is going somewhere. Then you have to have a "talk."

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      05.21.08, 11:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • You think this is the best?

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        05.21.08, 11:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ita, I would wait and see. If you guys get serious, then you will need to talk to him about it and see how he deals with it. I wouldn't have this talk until I was sure that I loved him and he loved me.

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          05.21.08, 11:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • I like this idea

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            05.21.08, 11:09 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • i kind of agree, but if he reacts in a way that you are not happy about (doesn't believe it or makes excuses), it would be devastating if you were in a serious relationship at that time.

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            05.21.08, 11:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • If I tell him now, how do I bring it up? I don't want to say "well you know your friend Steve (not real name), he date raped me 11 years ago."

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              05.21.08, 11:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • or-i'm sorry-i don't have a good answer. such a hard situation. i really feel for you. you really like this guy and think it could go somewhere?

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                05.21.08, 11:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Yes I think this could go somewhere. He is a great guy and I am not going to judge him based on a friend of his. Especially he knew the guy before this happened to me and all that.

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                  05.21.08, 11:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • yes, but what if the guy comes for a visit in a few weeks? and what if she falls in love and he doesn't believe her? how much would that hurt?

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            05.21.08, 11:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • well, it would reveal his character and yes it would hurt, but she would know what kind of a guy he really is.

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              05.21.08, 11:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • OP: I am trying to figure out if he knows anythign about what happened. Like if his friend told him about it

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                05.21.08, 11:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • she should know this NOW instead of waiting and wasting time and getting MORE involved.

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                05.21.08, 11:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Thanks

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                  05.21.08, 11:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • i wonder if it makes sense for you to tell him about the rape itself before you tell him it was his friend. you may get a sense about how he would handle it by how he handles the first part. i'm so sorry for what you went through, and doubly sorry that it is coming back to haunt you now.

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                    05.21.08, 11:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • OP: I like this idea. Maybe at least give him an idea that this did happen to me. So I can feel him out that I was raped.

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                      05.21.08, 11:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • or: would this normally be something you'd tell someone early in a relationship?

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                        05.21.08, 11:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • No I had one long term relationship in addition to my late husband after the rape and I told them both later on in the relationship.

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                          05.21.08, 11:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • OR: I don't agree with this at all.

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                      05.21.08, 11:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • because it might seem like she's keeping something from him? if so, you have a point.

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                        05.21.08, 11:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • yes. it's like oh, remember when i told you i was date raped? btw, it was your friend. it is almost like she is tricking him.

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                          05.21.08, 12:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • yeah. but if she tells him all of it she still would probably want to lead with the what, and then get to who later in the conversation. as in, the reason i'm telling you this now is.....(but after she's sussed out his reaction).

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                          05.21.08, 02:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • i TOTALLY disagree with this. when talking about rape, some people react really supportively, some not so much. and add this guy being a friend into the mix and it could not be so great. i think you'd want to know what his reaction with sooner rather than later.

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            05.21.08, 05:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • a dh here: I would want to know at the beginning. I know my wants are secondary here. You should first do what makes you comfortable. But for a guys perspective: 1. I would want to know this about a guy I thought was my friend and 2. This is not going to be easier down the road. I would say, "Look, you should know -- I filed charges against "John Doe" for rape 11 years ago." How he reacts will tell you whether you want to spend more than another hour in his company. (And sorry for what happened. That sucks.)

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      05.21.08, 11:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: Thank you. I actually appreciate your comments on this, gives me another opinion.

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        05.21.08, 11:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • How would you react if you were the guy in this situation? That you were being told that a good friend of yours date raped a women you were dating 11 years before.

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        05.21.08, 11:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • (I'd like to think none of my friends would do that...) I would want to hear OP's side. I'd give my friend a chance to defend himself. If I didn't believe him, I'd never speak to him again. It really is as simple as "No means no."

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          05.21.08, 11:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • What would you tell OP when she told you?

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            05.21.08, 11:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I'd tell him I was going to give him the chance to defend his name but unless he could (like, "Dude, I was in Katmandu that summer working for UNICEF.") I was done with him. -OR

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              05.21.08, 02:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • but you might believe him. if he's really someone capable of this, he's probably also a very good liar.

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            05.21.08, 11:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • OR (dh): I had a meeting. I think there is a level of logic that liars can't meet. I mean I knew this guy when this happened. I would not just say, "Hey, I'm dating Jane Smith. You remember her. The woman you raped." I'd play it out. To be clear. I do not think that women make a lot of false allegations about rape. I think that for the most part, where there is smoke there is fire. That said I also think that somebody I have called friend much of my life deserves to defend himself and his name.

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              05.21.08, 02:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Here's the story. If you could react to it if it was your friend, etc.....I met the guy through mutual friends. I had a job in Omaha and didn't know many people there. Had a few good dates and on the 3rd date, I started getting sick. He took me home and got me upstairs, etc. He was helping out a lot. Well I was in bed and he came in and lied on top of me and started kissing me adn he said that he knew I was faking and wanted him. I kept telling him no and pushing him off me and he undressed what he needed to, held me down and raped me.

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            05.21.08, 11:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • wait, you were feeling sick???? do you think he drugged you???

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              05.21.08, 11:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • I am really not sure on that one. I am pretty sure it was my allergies, based on how I was feeling and all of that. It was the same as other allergy attacks. So I have never been confident if he had drugged me.

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                05.21.08, 11:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • OR: I never quite understood why we as a society started classifying something like this as "date rape." What you describe is rape. Period. Good luck. I hope this works out. I don't envy you the position you are now in.

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                  05.21.08, 02:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • the difference, I think, is that the OP knew her rapist vs. being a total stranger, but I agree that the damage, on many levels, is the same. Good luck OP...this is and was horrible for you. I would tell the guy sooner rather than later. I think the advice that you say something like," you know the pictures of your friends you were showing me...there is one that looks an awful lot like X. When I lived in Omaha, I went on 3 dates with X & then tell the full story." I think it will be much worse to not tell the guy if you continue to be involved. I do think the DH on here has given good advice to you.

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                    05.21.08, 03:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • Thanks. -the dh on here

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                      05.21.08, 03:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • yes, please do not do any of this game-playing nonsense. i'd tell him the very next time you see him and just say how shocked you were last time, which is why you didnt say anything in the moment. you have nothing to be ashamed of, so I don't see why you wouldnt bring it up at the get go. good luck.

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                      05.21.08, 03:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • np: stranger rape survivor here. i think that the damage is worse on some level when it is a date - you trusted that person. it not only shatters your trust in the world, but also your belief in your own ability to judge. i'm so sorry, op.

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                      05.21.08, 05:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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        05.21.08, 03:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • oh my god. wow. I am so sorry for your situation. that is crazy. can you be honest with him about the situation?

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      05.21.08, 05:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • tell him before you have sex

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      05.21.08, 07:21 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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