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Non-visual diversity and only applied to 6 schools, most tt. Too few?
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11.18.09, 09:12 AM [ Flag ]
- yep, if you're committed to private or you have a connection
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  11.18.09, 09:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - here's the math. since acceptance rates are around 10%, you need to apply to about 10 schools. of course, depending on the kid, you could still get shut out or have multiple accepts
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    11.18.09, 09:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - There's still only a 10% chance you'll get into each of those 10 schools. That's like saying that since it's 50:50 whether you'll have a boy or a girl each time, you should have two kids and you'll have one of each.
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      11.18.09, 10:29 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - i know i know ... i was a math major in college. the events are statistically independent (actually, in applying to schools they're prob not). the point is that with such low odds generally, you need to apply to more
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        11.18.09, 10:54 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- ERBs? Zoned for good public?
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  11.18.09, 09:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - ERBs excellent. Public school would be acceptable as an option though we'd prefer private
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    11.18.09, 09:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - poster from above. if that's the case, 6 should be enough
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      11.18.09, 09:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - OR: agreed, 6 should be ok. Why pay for a second or third tier private if you have a decent public option?
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        11.18.09, 09:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - 99 or lower?
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      11.18.09, 09:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - 99 x 3
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        11.18.09, 09:44 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Should be fine (unless DC is too young), no need for the diversity card
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        11.18.09, 10:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        np: Yes birthday is the wild card here, even stellar ERB will not do anything if dc is deemed young.
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        11.18.09, 10:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- Depends. What is the diversity? Although I think 8 is always a good number.
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  11.18.09, 09:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- What's non-visual diversity mean?
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  11.18.09, 09:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - Speaks multiple languages? One parent from another country?
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    11.18.09, 09:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - That to many schools is more relevant than visible diversity.
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      11.18.09, 09:36 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - disagree--only visual diversity counts at any of these schools.
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        11.18.09, 09:40 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - op: single gay parent. On the outside, just a single parent (non-visual) but diversity in that we're a gay family
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    11.18.09, 09:46 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - np: oh, well then, you're in. Don't worry about it. 6 is fine.
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      11.18.09, 09:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - god, you people have no shame, do you?
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      11.18.09, 09:48 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - excuse me? Is that supposed to be funny or something?
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        11.18.09, 09:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        no, it's not. your sexual orientation entitles you to privilege in admission? i hope *that* was supposed to be funny (it certainly is "or something").
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        11.18.09, 10:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I sure think it does--she represents a kind of lifestyle diversity that I want my dc to be as aware of, respectful of, and comfortable with as any other kind of diversity, visible or not. It's not that she "thinks she's entitled to privilege," it's that she is, in fact, more desirable than you and me from any decent school's perspective, and I'm happy about that. -np
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        11.18.09, 10:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - i think it depends on the school as to whether this "diversity" matters at all
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      11.18.09, 09:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - NP: It matters at every single school in new york.
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        11.18.09, 10:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - How will a school know you're gay? Are you planning on hitting on somebody during the interview?
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      11.18.09, 10:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - exactly. diversity!
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        11.18.09, 10:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - The school will presumably ask about the dc's father and want to know about the family makeup with any single parent. She would have to actively hide it to have it go unnoticed.
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        11.18.09, 10:37 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        yes, but who the single mom chooses to sleep with shouldn't really enter into it, should it?
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        11.18.09, 11:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        and op would either say "dc is adopted" or "I had dc with a sperm donor" or "dcs biological father sees her/doesn't see her". How does "I'm gay" come into this unless OP wants special status?
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        11.18.09, 11:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        op: I have been outright asked about the parenting situation in interviews--which, frankly, pisses me off. I'm not going to lie about it so I say that I had dc w/former parner and we split up. Then they ask if "he" is involved at all and I say that no, "she" is not.
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        11.18.09, 11:51 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        It shouldn't piss you off: they're trying to assess the stability in the child's life - if someone is currently separating, etc. You can't hope that your gay single status will work to your advantage, then be annoyed that they want to know more about it.
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        11.18.09, 11:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        YOu can't have it both ways OP, both hoping to benefit from being gay and objecting to being asked about it. Very hypocritical.
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        11.19.09, 07:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - What about a little rainbow lapel pin?
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      11.18.09, 10:41 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- Depends on your kid. We had no diversity and applied to 7 (5 of which were tt) and did fine.
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  11.18.09, 10:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- we got into top 2 choices (strong erb etc), but still applied to 10. Too fearful of a shutout--think of the extras as catastrophic insurance---also, I actually found it interesting seeing all of the schools--logistical nightmare for 2 working parents but we did it
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Non-visual diversity and only applied to 6 schools, most tt. Too few?

yep, if you're committed to private or you have a connection

here's the math. since acceptance rates are around 10%, you need to apply to about 10 schools. of course, depending on the kid, you could still get shut out or have multiple accepts

There's still only a 10% chance you'll get into each of those 10 schools. That's like saying that since it's 50:50 whether you'll have a boy or a girl each time, you should have two kids and you'll have one of each.

i know i know ... i was a math major in college. the events are statistically independent (actually, in applying to schools they're prob not). the point is that with such low odds generally, you need to apply to more

ERBs? Zoned for good public?

ERBs excellent. Public school would be acceptable as an option though we'd prefer private

poster from above. if that's the case, 6 should be enough

OR: agreed, 6 should be ok. Why pay for a second or third tier private if you have a decent public option?

99 or lower?

99 x 3

Should be fine (unless DC is too young), no need for the diversity card

np: Yes birthday is the wild card here, even stellar ERB will not do anything if dc is deemed young.

Depends. What is the diversity? Although I think 8 is always a good number.

What's non-visual diversity mean?

Speaks multiple languages? One parent from another country?

That to many schools is more relevant than visible diversity.

disagree--only visual diversity counts at any of these schools.

op: single gay parent. On the outside, just a single parent (non-visual) but diversity in that we're a gay family

np: oh, well then, you're in. Don't worry about it. 6 is fine.

god, you people have no shame, do you?

excuse me? Is that supposed to be funny or something?

no, it's not. your sexual orientation entitles you to privilege in admission? i hope *that* was supposed to be funny (it certainly is "or something").

i think it depends on the school as to whether this "diversity" matters at all

NP: It matters at every single school in new york.

How will a school know you're gay? Are you planning on hitting on somebody during the interview?

exactly. diversity!

The school will presumably ask about the dc's father and want to know about the family makeup with any single parent. She would have to actively hide it to have it go unnoticed.

yes, but who the single mom chooses to sleep with shouldn't really enter into it, should it?

and op would either say "dc is adopted" or "I had dc with a sperm donor" or "dcs biological father sees her/doesn't see her". How does "I'm gay" come into this unless OP wants special status?

op: I have been outright asked about the parenting situation in interviews--which, frankly, pisses me off. I'm not going to lie about it so I say that I had dc w/former parner and we split up. Then they ask if "he" is involved at all and I say that no, "she" is not.

It shouldn't piss you off: they're trying to assess the stability in the child's life - if someone is currently separating, etc. You can't hope that your gay single status will work to your advantage, then be annoyed that they want to know more about it.

YOu can't have it both ways OP, both hoping to benefit from being gay and objecting to being asked about it. Very hypocritical.

What about a little rainbow lapel pin?

Depends on your kid. We had no diversity and applied to 7 (5 of which were tt) and did fine.

we got into top 2 choices (strong erb etc), but still applied to 10. Too fearful of a shutout--think of the extras as catastrophic insurance---also, I actually found it interesting seeing all of the schools--logistical nightmare for 2 working parents but we did it

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no, it's not. your sexual orientation entitles you to privilege in admission? i hope that was supposed to be funny (it certainly is "or something").