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  • Anyone have Dalton interview with Francee Sugar?

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    11.20.09, 06:49 PM [ Flagged ]
    • No, is she relatively new?

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      11.20.09, 06:53 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Not new. She's the director of learning support services and does interviews too.

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        11.20.09, 06:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I had a short interview with her but I'm not quite sure about everything that's been posted. My interview with her was brief. Honestly I feel like she has the network but she didn't really know what she was talking about.

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        12.15.09, 01:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Francee Sugar has good intentions. However I don't believe she is qualified for her position. She is good with follow through however I don't know if she has the right intentions or qualifications. I sometimes question her capabilities but Dalton is such a good school as a whole I don't know what can be done.

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        12.15.09, 01:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • She is truly an idiot and an airhead. I hope Dalton doesn't listen to her opinions in the admissions decisions they make.

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      11.22.09, 11:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Wow, Francee has been great with my child and very helpful to our family. An idiot and an airhead? Did you not like what she had to say about your dc?

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        11.22.09, 01:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Apparently the author of the comment did not. Wow. Did she sleep with your partner or what?

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          11.22.09, 01:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Here is one of the benefits of an anonymous board. She has been, in fact, always extremely caring, sweet, positive and highly complimentary about my DC. However, I know from real life experience that a.) she is not knowledegable in her field beyond the most rudimentary aspects, b.) she is lazy and does as little as possible, c.) she is a two-faced hypocrite (watch watch she does, not what she says), d.) she fails to do some the most basic and most important responsibilities of her job or, at best, she does them poorly and incompletely. Does that answer your question. My comments have nothing to do with whether she "likes" my DC. I could care less about that. But I care a lot about all the other ways she falls short. Overall I like D but the fact that she keeps her job is a mystery to me, unless it's a tenure or other legal reason that she's still there.

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          11.22.09, 02:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • and your degree in education is from...?

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            11.22.09, 02:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Direct experience. And an MBA, post grad and series of CEO jobs. Mostly a concerned, well-read and observant mother. On what basis do you make your judgements about whether someone is competent in their job?

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              11.22.09, 06:03 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Does one need a degree in education to recognize someone who clearly does not have the skills, know-how and/or drive to do their job. and plenty of evidence that they are not doing it?

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              11.22.09, 06:05 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Typo: watch what she does, not what she says.

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            11.22.09, 05:58 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • What a nasty comment!

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        11.22.09, 02:01 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I was trying to give you hard facts and defensible reasons for making the comment I made. Analogy: If someone did something immoral or illegal that I knew about for a fact, and I said they were a bad person, that wouldn't be "nasty" - it would be stating a fact and backing it up with defensible reasons and data to support the description. That's what I just did re FS.

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          11.22.09, 02:06 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Those are your opinions-not the facts.

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            11.22.09, 02:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • With all due respect, you are flat out wrong. Sadly (for all the DC and parents in the school), my description is based on cold, hard, tangible facts. The description comes from real things that she did and did not do, and things that she does and does not know. I'm glad you

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              11.22.09, 02:16 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • isn't she the one who slept with the head of school?

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      11.22.09, 02:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • yup.

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        11.22.09, 02:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • yes. not just slept with him, but had an affair and is now either married or living with him. he is obviously no longer head of school.

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        11.22.09, 06:10 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • and that matter how?

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          11.23.09, 05:21 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • I believe he was married and she was married and they had an affair while both were working at the school. Matters because they are/were role models for the students. Matters because it means the head of school was stupid or arrogant or both ... and because FS could give a shit about teaching kids in the school about morals and ethics.

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            11.24.09, 06:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • np: huh? it doesn't sound like they just had some torrid affair, it sounds like they fell in love and are making a life together.

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              11.24.09, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Not sure what your def of torrid affair would be. These were two senior administrators at the school, both married and having an affair with each other while they both continued to work at the school.

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                11.24.09, 07:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • He later went to head the school connected with Columbia Univ. and resigned just a year or two into the job for some type of ethical infractions. Don't know the specifics. Does anyone?

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                11.24.09, 07:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Don't know where he went, but that guy is a brilliant educator, and helped form Dalton as you all now know it. Was on the Babby/Ellen team that had a real long term vision of what kind of school it should be. I liked him very much. But he screwed up.

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                  11.24.09, 07:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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              11.24.09, 07:49 PM [ | ]
    • We found her extremely unhelpful and not supportive at all. We decided to leave for financial reasons, and she gave us no help at all finding the right fit for our dd to continue hs. After 9 years at that school, we expected a little more help and kindness. Perfectly nice person, smart, interesting, but ineffectual at her job.

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      11.24.09, 07:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Totally agree.

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        11.24.09, 07:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • What did you expect and what is she supposed to do? Are you mad bec your dd did not get into the school of your choice?

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        11.24.09, 07:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • My DC did get into FC. All I expect is that she be competent and do her job. She is not (competent) and she doesn't (do her job). That's my gripe. Too much to ask? Ya think?

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          11.24.09, 08:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • You keep saying she should be competent at her job. I would just like to know what her job is. I thought her title is learning support coordinator or something. There are reasonable parents and then there are unreasonable parents and from your posts, I can't tell which one you are. More info needed and being vague is not helping.

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            11.24.09, 09:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • She is the head of learning support services. You can look up the job description if you're interested. I am reasonable and don't feel like writing up her job description. It's the same as at most other schools. My assessment of her abilities is just that - my assessment based on what she should do vs what she does. Enormous gap. Believe it or not. If you have DC at D, my only advice would be that you should not assume she is doing her job well and that you need to get actively involved in other ways for the best interests of your DC. Do not rely on the school.

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              11.25.09, 12:49 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • I do think there are few admin people I don't know what their job even is. Not sure why they're needed. I guess FS is one of those, then. The parents I've known seemed very happy with kids who need remedial support. I thought most schools, including D, are great at supporting these kids and the ones who need radical acceleration are having difficulty.

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                11.25.09, 12:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • I am referring to FS's basic and minimal job responsibilities ... and nothing outside the norm. My bad experience is from the school of hard knocks. Hopefully your experience, if you and your DC need her services, will be different and better. Good luck.

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                  11.25.09, 01:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • Just curious - who are the admin people you feel are not needed?

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                  11.25.09, 06:54 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • This bi*ch's dc was rejected and she wants all of them gone! Are you demented? Why do you ask questions to a psycho?

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                    11.28.09, 01:52 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • Don't feed the troll! This troll started the thread and is answering her own posts as if she has multiple personality. Yuck!

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                    11.28.09, 01:55 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • oh my goodness. This sounds crazy but I work at the school and very closely with her. i've seen this website open. I truly didn't think anything of it but I absolutely assume she was the one responding in positivie to the things that have been posted about her. You can't deny your past. This woman is truly sick and I don't trust her at all. Beware.

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                      12.15.09, 01:14 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
                      • In what capacity are you working with her? I don't believe anyone who is associated with Dalton would participate in a threads like this. If you're so sure of what you say, say what your name is.

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                        12.15.09, 01:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • Why are you working with her so closely if you despise her so much? What does it say about you, a hypocrite? Why do we have to believe a hypocrite?

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                        12.15.09, 01:51 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • She's a pathetic loser who shouldn't have that job. Dalton loses a lot of points in my book by their keeping her in that job for so long. The losers are the kids and the families.

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      11.28.09, 12:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OMG! Don't listen to these Bi**ches! It could well be just one troll anyway. FS is really nice, kind, caring person who does her best to help. She has good intention and cares about the students she needs to take care of. Lately, there's this one Bi**ch on UB who keeps on complaining about Dalton in every possible aspects. Her dc was rejected, who knows? Dumb legacy, who cares? These entitled Bi*ches are the ones that we work so hard to get rid of at school starting from our beloved Babby.

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        11.28.09, 01:48 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ^^^This Bi*ch attacked Babby the other day and now moved on to FS. Really sick psycho! Watch out!!

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          11.28.09, 01:50 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • She is extremely manipulative and unnecessary. She only maintains her position at that school because she started an affair with the director. She is in no position to be working with kids when she is so mentally unstable herself. She doesn't even know how to deal with her own children. Her daughter is a cocaine addict.

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      12.15.09, 12:27 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • Hello, CNET, no one paying attention? If I were you I'd delete this one.

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      12.15.09, 12:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I might get flamed for this, but I hate these posts. This poor woman probably doesn't deserve this.

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      12.15.09, 12:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I cannot agree more with the negative feedback about Francee Sugar. She is completely useless. There is no reason for her to interfere so much between the school children, teachers, and parents. I've always wondered what could she possibly be the director of? The fact that she started an affair with the principal which then caused him to lose his job makes me sick to my stomach. I don't want her anywhere near my children and have done everything possible to avoid it. Dalton is an amazing school but she is a blemish.

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      12.15.09, 12:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Unfortunately I hate to lambast someone. However I have to agree with the other posters that I believe her position is irrelevant. I haven't had any issues with her directly but then again I really don't deal with her on a day to day basis.

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      12.15.09, 01:04 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Who are these people making personal attack on an anonymous board? It's cowardly. What's your agenda?

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      12.15.09, 01:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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