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  • [-]Am I silly to even consider private ongoing for ds since I will need major FA to do so? I am open to applying all over the city and will move if the commute isn't great, but I also don't want to waste anyones time if getting aid isn't an option. Income $100K. Single parent.

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    05.21.08, 11:11 AM [ Flag ]
    • if it were me, I'd move someplace where they have good public schools (prob out of the city)

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      05.21.08, 11:13 AM [ Flag ]
      • np; you do realize that moving is easier said than done

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        05.21.08, 03:44 PM [ Flag ]
        • np - The OP is the one who brought up moving.

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          05.21.08, 03:56 PM [ Flag ]
    • No, you are not silly. Ongoing schools offer FA for a reason and 10-20% of students get FA at most schools we've looked at. I have a client who tried to talk her very bright daughter out of applying to boarding school bc she's a single parent making $50K and could not fathom how it could be affordable. Well, her daughter got a nearly full ride, I believe her mom contributes less than $5K to the total cost of $35K. She's so happy her daughter insisted on applying.

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      05.21.08, 11:17 AM [ Flag ]
      • boarding schools have more money for this, don't they?

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        05.21.08, 11:22 AM [ Flag ]
        • some boarding schools do have more money. my point is, why rule out applying based on assumptions that may turn out to be wrong. take a chance. if you don't get sufficient FA, the only thing you've lost is some app fees and some time. public school will still be there.

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          05.21.08, 11:26 AM [ Flag ]
    • Apply to BIG money schools. Single mom making only $100k can qualify for a lot of aid. Possibly as much as 80-85%.

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      05.21.08, 11:45 AM [ Flag ]
    • If you can, have DC take the ERBs over the summer. If your DC scores well and interviews well - sky's the limit.

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      05.21.08, 12:37 PM [ Flag ]
      • Well, that is not true, but she should still try. Plenty of high scoring, great interviewing dc who need FA get shut out, but many get the aid - so it is worth a try

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        05.21.08, 03:30 PM [ Flag ]
    • I just cannot imagine doing that. find a good public and spend time with your kid, showing him you can actually afford him, that you are not poor victims getting a free ride and that he will be fine not having the fanciest of the fancy

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      05.21.08, 01:13 PM [ Flag ]
      • ITA! I just couldn't make my kids see me as needing a handout since I earn $100K per year and have worked very hard to do that. Feel it would complicate the image my kids have of me as a single mom. would not feel strong and capable in their eyes. I am an MD, btw.

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        05.21.08, 01:46 PM [ Flag ]
        • You cant be serious. How exactly are you needing a handout? FA is an available option for ALL families. I would hope your kids would see that you had their best interest at heart when you put them in private school. Instead put them in Gen Ed, I'm sure you'll be quite amazed at what you see.

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          05.21.08, 03:26 PM [ Flag ]
          • np; you know, it's not like you are a beggar at a private if your dc gets scholarship. It's the school that wants to add socioeconomic diversity to their school to benefit them. I totally disagree. There are many kids on scholarship who would tell you they are very happy and many families that are not paranoid like you.

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            05.21.08, 03:36 PM [ Flag ]
            • np. i'm sorry but "socioeconomic diversity" (by which you actually mean "economic diversity") is a crock of sh&t. there's nothing about poor people my dc needs to learn from a classmate. btdt, but actually managed to pull myself up by my bootstraps.

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              05.21.08, 03:55 PM [ Flag ]
              • ^^in other words, "socioeconomic diversity" IS a handout. to call it something else in order to make the recipients of the handout feel better is just ludicrous.

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                05.21.08, 03:56 PM [ Flag ]
            • OR: I don't really care what other familes think, nor do I feel paranoid about it. I am a well educated woman who has worked very hard. I am not poor, and cannot justify to MYSELF taking aid to educate my dcs. I feel it sets a bad example for them, and t goes against the values I want to teach them. If someone needs real help, then fine. If not, you make decisions to afford what fits your ability to pay. I feel that is a worthy thing to teach, and could care less about others

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              05.21.08, 04:03 PM [ Flag ]
      • that's ridiculous. I hope we get FA and I would be thrilled for dd

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        05.21.08, 03:35 PM [ Flag ]
        • I know families that were blessed with over 90% FA. So if the schools don't have a problem with it, neither should anyone else.

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          05.21.08, 03:37 PM [ Flag ]
      • this is just ridiculous. Find a good public? You need to live in a very $$$$ school zone for a good public and even the good publics are now overcrowded and not a guarantee anymore (like PS 41 moving to a lottery). Getting FA for a school is not showing your dc anything. Why should you tell your dc that they are there on aid? BTW FA doesn't mean full ride. Private doesn't mean fancy either.

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        05.21.08, 03:41 PM [ Flag ]
    • Check Out Early Steps (212) 288-9684.

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      05.21.08, 03:32 PM [ Flag ]
      • Did she say that they are a family of color?

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        05.21.08, 03:33 PM [ Flag ]
        • Thats very true, but I thought early steps helped everyone with regards to diversifying private schools. Single mother= diversity. Besides, what exactly qualifies as a family of color?

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          05.21.08, 03:36 PM [ Flag ]
          • No, at least one parent has to be black, Asian or Hispanic or adopted children of those races regardless of parents' race

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            05.21.08, 03:37 PM [ Flag ]
    • you aren't silly. We are in a private with FA and a HHI of 90k. We wouldn't have it any other way. Our public zone is failing and the G&T in are area isnt' for our dc.

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      05.21.08, 03:38 PM [ Flag ]
    • You won't be able to afford rent in good gen ed zone with that income. I looked into PS87 rental for 2BR, and it was well over $4,000 a month. You could try to G&T if you have a super smart/good tester kid. But why not apply to private and public and see which option you end up with? You may NOT have any option in this tough environment... I'm sad to say.

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      05.21.08, 03:39 PM [ Flag ]
      • OP will change her mind once she takes a good look at local zoned public. She will be running to interviews trying to land a good private. If you havent been paying attention DOE is a nightmare and only those fortunate enough to live in excellent districts benefit from the best that the DOE has to offer. EVERYBODY else falls by the wayside.

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        05.21.08, 03:48 PM [ Flag ]
    • Definitely consider independent schools--they give millions of dollars in aid. You should be prepared to answer questions if there is another parent--schools want to know who will be responsible and may factor in the other salary. They expect both parents, married or not, to contribute to the child's education. (I'm a single, adoptive parent who receives aid, btw.)

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      05.21.08, 03:49 PM [ Flag ]
  • [-]When did you dc learn to ride a bike without training wheels? I noticed that a few almost 4 yr olds are already doing it, yet see many 5-6 yo with training wheels.

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    05.21.08, 08:27 AM [ Flag ]
    • Mine is 6.5 and still hasn't learned. We're planning to tackle that this summer.

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      05.21.08, 08:33 AM [ Flag ]
    • Mine hasn't. She is 6. We are just not into bike riding--although I guess we will teach her this summer.

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      05.21.08, 08:33 AM [ Flag ]
      • My 6 year old doesn't even have a bike right now. We know we have to get her one but we have so little space in our apt and she's never been to keen on having one either.

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        05.21.08, 09:52 AM [ Flag ]
    • We just did it with my 6 (nearly 7 year old). never cared if others were able to do it. waited until dc felt ready. Older dc learned earlier because she couldn't stand that her friends could do something she couldn't.

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      05.21.08, 08:43 AM [ Flag ]
    • mine is almost 7 and is learning now. our fault though -- she's had training wheels for two years already, and we've been lazy about taking the next step.

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      05.21.08, 08:47 AM [ Flag ]
    • Age range is typically from 5 to 10.

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      05.21.08, 08:57 AM [ Flag ]
      • omg if you were 10 in my neighborhood on training wheels you would NEVER hear the end of it. You'd probably be called "Training Wheels" or some permutation of same until you died. Now to answe the question When I was a kid, in my neighborhood the average age was 5.5-6

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        05.21.08, 09:00 AM [ Flag ]
      • 10 is very outside limit, 7 is more like it

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        05.21.08, 09:49 AM [ Flag ]
    • older dc learned at 4 - he had a like-a-bike and taught himself. My younger dc is almost 5 and afraid to pedal on a bike with training wheels. My nephew was 8 when he learned - but I think it mostly depends on 1. how coordinated your dc is and 2. how much access they get to biking

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      05.21.08, 09:47 AM [ Flag ]
    • just before dc turned 4. saw cousins riding without training wheels and decided it was time.

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      05.21.08, 02:29 PM [ Flag ]
  • [-]Can someone please help me? 3 yo dd simply cannot stop hurting 16 mo ds. All day, if I turn my back for even 10 seconds, it's her pushing him down on his back, smacking him in the face, throwing things at him/his face, pinching his cheeks hard, lying on top of him, squeezing her legs around his neck ... I kid you not. We do not do this rough stuff ourselves, so I am really at a loss. Very serious and consistent time outs are not working. Is this normal? What would you do?

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    05.21.08, 01:33 PM [ Flag ]
    • sounds like she needs therapy

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      05.21.08, 01:35 PM [ Flag ]
      • op: I never know if the replies on this board are serious, but assuming you are, I should add that she does not do this stuff with other kids, just her brother.

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        05.21.08, 01:36 PM [ Flag ]
        • I'm serious, she seems to have very agressive/violent feelings for her brother and that isn't safe. i'm not saying she's mentally ill or anything like that but someone needs to get to the root of it and make her see it can and will seriously hurt him eventually.

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          05.21.08, 01:38 PM [ Flag ]
          • sorry, you are so wrong.

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            05.21.08, 01:39 PM [ Flag ]
            • No i'm not, i've BTDT. What do you think is wrong?

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              05.21.08, 01:41 PM [ Flag ]
              • op: if you've BTDT, how did you get to the root of the problem?

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                05.21.08, 01:42 PM [ Flag ]
                • A child therapist. My DS was trying to put his baby sister in the oven, alway slapping her, would get in her face and scream as loud as he could (till my ears hurt so imagine hers), etc.

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                  05.21.08, 01:44 PM [ Flag ]
                  • hm. ok. the oven sounds a bit extreme, and the screaming as well. we haven't quite reached that fever pitch, maybe. so what did the therapist do?

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                    05.21.08, 01:47 PM [ Flag ]
                    • spent time with him role playing/talking mostly. It took a few months total but he's never tried to hurt her again.

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                      05.21.08, 01:48 PM [ Flag ]
                      • ^^^and my examples don't sound any more serious than your example of your DD wrapping her legs around DS's neck and squeezing, she could choke him to death, my DS couldn't turn on the oven because the knobs were removed.

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                        05.21.08, 01:49 PM [ Flag ]
          • op: I don't know how anyone would get to the root of anything with a 3 yo. She's not exactly a sophisticate when it comes to expressing herself. Though I certainly wish I could.

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            05.21.08, 01:41 PM [ Flag ]
            • your child does not needd therapy.

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              05.21.08, 01:42 PM [ Flag ]
              • op: thanks. do you have any suggestions, or any idea when we should expect a natural improvement?

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                05.21.08, 01:44 PM [ Flag ]
    • We are having the same problem. I'd love to hear what others have done. GL!

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      05.21.08, 01:35 PM [ Flag ]
    • rudolf dreikurs suggests that you give your older child opportunities to help you with the baby. lots of help. also, another suggestion is to baby the older child if that is what she wants, including spoon feeding her, putting her down to a nap when the infant goes to sleep, holding and rocking her. she will begin to hate it and wnat her indepenedecne again.

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      05.21.08, 01:38 PM [ Flag ]
    • We had a bit of this for awhile. It seemed to help to let them be alone together, actually (I would usually eavesdrop or pretend I was busy but really watch). Once my older one got to like the little one, the acting out stopped a bit. I only see aggressive behavior like this now when #1 is really wanting my attention

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      05.21.08, 01:38 PM [ Flag ]
      • op: thanks, but from what I've seen so far, it really would be like Lord of the Flies if I left them alone. that's when she acts the worst.

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        05.21.08, 01:40 PM [ Flag ]
      • totally agree. the kid knows not to hurt them. try it, and do not act anxious about it. expect her to act kindly to her sib and she will. and NO TIME OUTS!!!!!!

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        05.21.08, 01:42 PM [ Flag ]
        • np: so she can choke/beat/whatever her brother and should get no punishment?

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          05.21.08, 01:45 PM [ Flag ]
          • only discouraged children misbehave. this child is discouraged. her mother does not trust her to be kind to the baby.

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            05.21.08, 01:56 PM [ Flag ]
        • op: I don't understand this tactic. I'm saying she is extremely aggressive toward him when they're alone, and I'm being told to leave them alone more to work it out? This doesn't make sense to me. I'm not going to leave my 16 mo open to her antics.

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          05.21.08, 01:45 PM [ Flag ]
          • that is part of the problem. you do not trust her. my suggestion is to read, "children the challenge" by rudolf dreikurs.

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            05.21.08, 01:55 PM [ Flag ]
          • OP, I'm with you. This sounds like one of those theories that sounds good, but can't be put into practice, esp. if it means endangering your 16 mo.

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            05.21.08, 02:01 PM [ Flag ]
    • SPANKING

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      05.21.08, 01:46 PM [ Flag ]
      • op: oh geez, believe me I want to, but I just don't see how hitting a child teaches them not to hit others.

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        05.21.08, 01:50 PM [ Flag ]
    • positive reinforcement when she treats him well

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      05.21.08, 01:47 PM [ Flag ]
      • op: doing that, although it RARELY happens.

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        05.21.08, 01:51 PM [ Flag ]