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  • [-]I just found out I am expecting. The thing is that one of my close friends has been trying and has miscarried five times. I miscarried once and got lucky this time. It's awkward though. I don't want to make her feel bad. I don't want to lose her friendship, because this hurts her too much.

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    10.10.08, 05:06 PM [ Flag ]
    • Anyone?

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      10.10.08, 05:12 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • Well obviously you have to tell her.

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      10.10.08, 05:21 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • Try to disguise your pregnancy (hats and bowties to draw attention away from your mid section) until it becomes impossible. At that point, in good conscience the only thing you can do is leave town. After you've given the baby up for adoption resume all normal activities.

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      10.10.08, 05:24 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • You shouldn't have to feel bad or hide it! I can't believe noone is saying that. Your friend might surprise you and be really excited for you. same thing happened to me. I didn't give my friend all of the pregnancy details but otherwise everything is the same.

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      10.10.08, 05:43 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • oh and in a few years she'll have a child who outshines yours and when your dh is laid off she'll feel awkward around you and won't know what to say. Get over yourself, life will take care of this for you.

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      10.10.08, 05:48 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • Oh wow, I don't think it's the same. OP, I think you should tell her but let her know that you are rooting for her to get pregnant, too. Then just don't talk about it unless she brings it up. I hope you don't lose the friendship, but she might find it painful to be around you for a while.

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        10.10.08, 05:51 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • I disagree. This is just one of many situations in life when it is uncomfortable to be around someone who has something you want. Some day it could be a better marriage, or college admissions, or that old devil, money. Everyone gets their turn OP. Don't get too happy with yourself.

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          10.10.08, 05:56 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • as someone who dealt with a friend's pregnancy and birth while i was dealing with infertility - i can tell you firsthand that you should tell your friend. maybe over the phone so that she can handle it privately. miscarriages are especially hard as you know. i applaud you for thinking of your friend!! i agree with poster above - only talk about it when she brings it up and understand that this may be painful for her. she will be very happy for you, i promise! but that happiness may be overshadowed by her pain, so dont be disappointed if she needs her space for awhile. you are a great friend and if she is as good of a friend to you, then she will be happy for you and things will all work out fine!! =)

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          10.10.08, 11:07 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • I was in a slightly similar situation, though on the other end. My best friend didn't tell me for the longest time, because she knew how desperately I wanted kids. I was actually upset that she felt she couldn't confide in me. Tell her, openly and honestly, and then try not to share too many details unless she asks. But don't hide it from her, or keep secrets. I've found that would hurt a close friendship even more.

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      10.11.08, 09:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  • [-]How can anyone, republican or not, even be thinking of voting for McCain/Palin? That's a train-wreck ticket if ever there was one, imo. He's crazy as a loon - totally erratic and attack-dogish and she's not the sharpest tool in the shed but I'll be the first to admit she memorizes & delivers spoon-fed lines like an acadamy award winning actress.

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    10.10.08, 07:48 AM [ Flag ]
    • never underestimate - and some people believe McCain will lead the country better.

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      10.10.08, 07:49 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • OP: but how could they think that?, haven't they been paying attention??

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        10.10.08, 07:54 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • I honestly don't think you want to udnerstand their point of view. But, giving the benefit of the doubt - paying attention to what? The campaign ads on tv? The debates? They are really a toss up.

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          10.10.08, 07:56 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • OP: paying attention to McCain's voting record, for one?? And you might be the only person who thinks the debates were a "toss up" - So, you're obviously a republican who's h*ll bent on voting republican, huh?

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            10.10.08, 08:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • I'm actually not. I'm voting for O (Hillary supporter prior). I think, that one of the reasons you don't understand other peoples opinions is that you assume too much and are a tad closed minded. Not that there is anything wrong with that - but it's kind of odd when people post saying they just can't understand and it is painfully obvious, they haven't tried.

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              10.10.08, 08:11 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • We need change and Obama is not the right one mfor the job.

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      10.10.08, 07:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Are you serious? So what happens if McCain is elected and then dies of cancer a year later? The thought of President Palin should scare the $HIT out of every single person living on Planet Earth, imo.

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        10.10.08, 07:56 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • np, It's a shame that people are incapable of understanding someone elses point of view. While I don't agree, I don't find it impossible to understand.

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          10.10.08, 07:59 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • So what's Palin's "point of view" anyway? That she doesn't have to answer the debate questions? That she doesn't even know the meaning of "Achilles' heel"? That she can't put a sentence together unless it's been spoon-fed to her? That she believes the office of VP should be extended so that the rules no longer apply to her? Have YOU been paying attention?

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            10.10.08, 08:04 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
            • Sigh. Yes, I pay attention to politics. Palin doesn't hide her "point of view" - pro life, pro gun, pro war etc. It was obvious that she wasn't going to answer the questions posed by moderator - she stated clearly " I may not answer the question the way the moderator wants or the way Joe Biden wants, but I'm going to talk straight to the American people (may not be an exact quote but close). My take on Achilles Heel was that she knew what it meant but was not about to say a weakness, she is capable of putting together a sentence that is just silly, she believe the office of VP should be extended - she said that plain and simple - My question to you, is can you not see the difference between not agreeing and not understanding? BTW, How...

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              10.10.08, 08:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Agree was a bad choice but Obama is going to screw up the foreign policy completely. Russia is promising another cold war nad Bin Laden is quetly preparing another terrorist nation. We cannot be diplomatically "solving" these problems, we don't have time for this, we are breeding two huge enemies of true democracy in our backyard.

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          10.10.08, 08:04 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • np I think all these Obama Mama types will ultimately regret electing their candidate. He will win. And he tax them all to death and attempt to create a truly socialist govt.

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            10.10.08, 08:08 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • so you would prefer to elect someone who has accomplished nothing, has no experience leading anything much less a country, has extremely poor choices in the people who he associates himself with, and has empathy for terrorists, who is being elected as a personality who was created by the media.

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      10.10.08, 08:11 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • good point above, remember the reason the rest of the world likes him is because he is a socialist.

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        10.10.08, 08:12 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • ITTTTA. I'm surprised there's so much support for him in light of all the make work projects (works corps and such) he's being honest about (can only imagine what else he has planned). He'll spend, spend, spend and tax, tax, tax. And high net worth people will leave in droves.

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          10.10.08, 08:16 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • np F-ing scary, isn't it? That said, I think Palin was a terrible choice on McCain's part.

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        10.10.08, 08:14 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • McCain needed the backing of his own party to even have a chance of winning- Palin was a great choice for those reason and given no one seems to take the experience arguement very seriously -given Obama has none and she on paper actually has more, I don't think he made a mistake. That being said she isn't anymore ready to be President than Obama but if it came to that I am more comfortable with the people she will surround herself with than Obama will and he WILL be President Day 1, she wouldn't.

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          10.10.08, 08:23 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • I'm not American, but I am conservative and would vote Rep if I could vote. Palin strikes me as someone whose IQ doesn't hit 100--seriously.

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            10.10.08, 08:33 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • Wow, 80% of the 10 people left on UB seem to be Republicans. (np)

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      10.10.08, 08:20 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • Obama is not going to win this election. No way. Keep this post on "watch" amd lets chat again in early Nov.

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      10.10.08, 03:00 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • I truly wish you were right (except that I think Palin is an idiot), but I don't think you are. Open season on the "rich".

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        10.10.08, 03:18 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • Obama will win. No question.Not even close!

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        10.10.08, 03:20 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • Are you looking forward to all the freebies you'll get until everyone with two dimes to rub together figures "f this" and leaves the country?

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          10.10.08, 03:23 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • Lol, and where exactly are these people going to go? Europe? China? Look at NYC, it has one of the highest tax rates in the country yet seems to have no problem attracting high net worth people. Bot I hope you are right and all the CEOs who were giving themselves huge salaries and golden parachutes while they were robbing their companies blind leave to go ruin another country's economy.

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            10.11.08, 07:57 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
  • [-]what is proper park etiquette wrt sharing toys? i bring a lot of toys to park for 15 mo dd. i understand other kids may be attracted to her toys, want to play with them, etc. but when did it become MY problem when I ask a child to please keep our toys in our area i/o taking it to another area of the park? if you are going to the park, why dont you bring toys for your kid? why do you expect to play with the toys of others? btw - sharing doesn't come easily to me, and i am trying to keep a lid on my feelings wghere my dd is concerned, but i'm just surprised that some parents don't teach their children to ask to play with something that isn't theirs. UGHHHHH

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    10.10.08, 06:20 PM [ Flag ]
    • if you bring toys to the park they are fair game as long as dd isn't engaged in playing with them, and that means they could wind up on the other end of the playground. if you're unhappy with that, don't bring toys.

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      10.10.08, 06:23 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • op: really? i don't understand the logic of that, honestly. and if it is so, then is it appropriate for the parent not to at least go thru the motion and advise their child to ask before appropriating someone else's property?

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        10.10.08, 06:25 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • if it's sitting next to your dd, sure. if you're dd leaves it somewhere and wanders off, do you really expect a parent to track you down?

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          10.10.08, 06:28 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
          • i'm talking about when it's sitting next to us. like right next to us. honestly,k isn't anyone with me?

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            10.10.08, 06:31 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
            • of course. i dont know what the op was looking for, but if you bring em, they're shared. period.

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              10.11.08, 02:04 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • you expect a toddler to ask to play with a toy? it's not going to happen. IMO, bringing toys to a playground is like bringing toys to a dog run--don't do it if you're going to be possessive. why do you need to bring toys? isn't there enough there to entertain your dd? don't you want her to interact with other kids?

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      10.10.08, 06:23 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • op: she likes to play in sand with bucket, shovel, sifter, etc. 15 mo don't really interact that much yet . i don't expect the child to ask to play with the toy, i expect the parent to. most paretns do ask, it's just those that don't i'm asking about

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        10.10.08, 06:26 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • choose your battles. a parent (who may be wrangling more than one dc) neglects to ask you for a toy. is this really the end of the world?

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          10.10.08, 06:33 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • In my experience, it's impossible to tell who sandbox toys even belong to. Why does your dd need to play with all her toys at once? Sounds like she's fine with it, but you're a freak.

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          10.10.08, 07:21 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • if you son't want to project your shring issues in your child, try to see this as agreat learning opportunity for your dd.

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      10.10.08, 06:27 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • Sharing is caring

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      10.10.08, 06:29 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • why do they have to stay "in your area of the park"? Why can't you just ask the kids to make sure to bring them back to you when they're finished? If your child isn't playing with them, what's the problem? And it has nothing to do with other parents bringing their own toys for their kids, btw--kids are attracted to the toys of OTHER kids. Luckily, most parents are way cooler than you are about this.

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      10.10.08, 06:33 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • ita- generosity is a virtue

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        10.10.08, 06:34 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • because they are mine!

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        10.10.08, 06:35 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • I'm sorry--is this a parent posting, or her two-year-old?

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          10.10.08, 06:36 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
        • Don't bring anything you don't want played with by other kids, that you'll be pissed at other parents for not tracing and returning to you, that you will stress about losing. I get so annoyed by parents/caregivers that are this silly and then uptight. Please keep your extra toys home, prepare to share the ones not in your kid's hands and get ready for the wakeup call-your child will be using other kids' toys w/out asking. If we all had your attitude, nobody would bother taking their kids to the park. We belong to a community of parents and are generally accepted as the adults; please try to remember that.

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          10.11.08, 03:29 AM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
      • ^^also-your dd is young, my kids are older but I have *always* told them that if they ask to bring something to the playground they're expected to share it. Not give it up if they are having fun with it, but share it, and expect that other kids will want to play with it when they're not using it

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        10.10.08, 06:35 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • I'd let your kid play with my dd's toys. She would also share

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      10.10.08, 06:35 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • Our house rule has always been -- if you bring toys to the park expect to share them. A time will come when you forgot a pail or your child "must" play with the red Dora shovel someone else brought. Any day now your dd will be magnetically drawn to every babydoll stroller she sees in the park & will pitch a fit if she can't walk with it. Nothing wrong with gently telling a child to keep toys in the sandbox or telling them they can take a turn and return toy -- but YES you and your child should expect to share everything you bring to a public park filled with children who always prefer another child's toys (yours included).

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      10.10.08, 07:16 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • bring less toys and don't bring something that she really likes. you should expect grabbing but be gentle in your reply. say "let's take turns" rather than share. sharing is too vague at this age. taking turns is concrete.

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      10.10.08, 07:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Last year we bought about 30 small buckets, wrote "donated" and left then at the park. THey only cost abut $.75 ea and cut down on problems

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      10.10.08, 08:15 PM [ Flagged | link to this post ]
    • you really need to grow up and get over your problems about sharing. If you can't share it don't bring it.

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      10.11.08, 06:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • We bring lots of toys to the park - ds only wants to play with other kids toys! He does share his toys so I figure it works out in the end - and I don't let him take anything another child is actually using. Just put your child's name or initials on everything and assume that you will lose a few things during the year.

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      10.11.08, 06:27 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]